Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Martin F Krafft]
>> Hello, world.deb
>>
>> The DebConf committee decided that DebConf10, the Debian developer
>> conference of 2010, will take place in New York City, USA.
> 
> I find this to be sad news.  I will not visit USA as long as they
> threat visitors the way they do, with forced fingerprint collecting,
> massive invasion in privacy (their visa application process is
> unacceptable, and their collection of travel related information too),
> enforcing crazy laws (DMCA and others) on foreight soil and kidnapping
> visitors and shipping them off to be tortured in countries ignoring
> the human rights even more than USA does (Maher Arar being the most
> known victim of this).  This of course mean I will not visit debconf
> 10. :(

Huge differences in comparisons to Europe?

- Visa requirement from non-European, non ex-colony immigrant is not
simple, and data are collected and transmitted to a lot of other
European states.

- crazy laws: IIRC a Swedish researcher was incriminated when it studied
tor, because of "national security". In Italy the wireless should be turned
off outside buildings. In France, until some years ago, the
official language of international conference was obliged to be
French, ...  Encryption is legal in all Europe? I think we are
more vulnerable to seizure (i.e. with less legal protection)
in comparison to US, but probably less used by our authorities.

- kidnapping: IIRC some of the them was kidnapped in Europe, with
some support of our authorities.

- human right: to much European countries has put some reserve on
   the human right convention.  The yearly human right rapport (I don't
   remember who publish it) has a lot complain for us.

so. we are better, but not enough to be good.

ciao
        cate

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