On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:22:43PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I forgot to mention this in my last message. I was highlighted while > my network was acting up on me. I have looked *very little* at this > point, but it's fundamental for us to work on it soon.
Yes, indeed. If replacing penta is going to happen, it can't wait. > So, during the work about it we had at DC12, we had two apparent > runner-ups: Frab and Zookeepr. If I am to be seen as the driver for > the change, I'm clearly for Frab, for a linguistic issue: I have > failed to love Python, and feel quite at ease with Ruby. Frab looks > as a clean, neat implementation. I have failed to love Ruby. It has just occurred to me, though, that my introduction to the language coincided with my attempt to comprehend Pentabarf. So, I'm willing to try again. In any case, I haven't seen anything since dc12 from anyone else here about trying out any of the other options. So, fwiw I'm inclined to say "he who will lead the work shall choose the tools". > I have not yet done a even test install of it (I'm creating a VM for > it right now). I expect to have it ready soon, and I'll start looking > at what we have, what we need. Has anyone else done even that much for zookeepr? > I expect not to be the only one doing this. That _really_ ought not happen. It wouldn't be good for you and it wouldn't be good for DebConf. There has to be a team doing this. > Now, what do we need to get this working? > > - More people involved. I'm very bad at managing my time and have > several projects going on, so I know I will fail if I do this > myself. I need something to work on and replacing penta is what currently seems most likely to keep me motivated to get involved in DebConf work again. > - Resources? I can have this on a VM of my personal machine, but I'd > very much rather if we have a instance where more people can log in > and hack on it. A DebConf machine? A Debian machine? Would be > good. But *please* not a painfully underpowered instance as Cletus > (the test instance for Penta), it only makes stuff harder. Can we get a comparison from admin@ of Cletus' and Skinner's resources? Also, it would be good to have an idea of skinner's peak resource usage during critical periods of the DebConf annual cycle. Depending on what we need, I might possibly be able to contribute a machine at least for the hacking phase. > And... Well, we shall later see what else. My proposed roadplan would > be to set up a system with no data migration from Penta (to start > fresh), Starting fresh sounds like a very good idea to me, too. I think that much of what needs to be preserved from penta can be exported to some static site(s). I can't imagine we need to try to shoehorn all of penta's data into frab. > have everything ready for other DebConfers to register and > point out the bits that need work. Maybe that would need a RT queue to > keep track of? Some form of issue tracker would seem to me a necessity. -edrz _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
