On 13528 March 1977, Tássia Camões wrote: >> Be careful with the gender data in penta, it has lead to various >> discussions around it. Its a tri-value state, with true as male, false >> as female and unset as "undefined", and I sure don't need to explain how >> much this does not fit what many people think of it. > Thanks for your input. > Then my question is: Is there a safe way of using this data?
We *can* use it (as long as its not associated with a person), so rough numbers are fine. I'm not sure the current data is really giving an all too useful answer. > IMHO self proclaimed gender identity is a meaningful information and > the assessement of those statistics in Debconfs could contribute with > debate about diversity in Debian. True information sure can be used for good stats. What we have is just not that, but explicitly limited as explained. > This issue was raised in Barcelona and I wonder if there would be > another way of getting this data for previous conferences. Not from penta, we don't have that. > Then how can we proceed in next conferences so that we can safely make > gender information public afterwards? There is no problem of making things like "There have been 15 female, 15 male, 23 marsians, 42 daily-changing, 0815 whatever else" information public, ever. But to ever be able to make a useful list and not the crap i just came up with public, we need to ask for it. If we stay with penta, that is a simple field to add, someone just needs to come up with a good description for it (and it sure wont be boolean. More like freeform or a long (and easy enough to edit) select list). If we end up with something else, than one needs to see if that can have it added. -- bye, Joerg NM-fun: The Debian project, at least for me, is not a joke, [...] _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list [email protected] http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
