As someone who is relatively new to DebConf, not Debian, but who jumped into the deep end:
* There is obviously frustration in a lot of places, this is not good. * As someone who helped spearhead the successful DC15 bid, I found the process opaque, inefficient, ill-designed, and... frustrating * Timelines were ignored or redefined on the fly. Again, not good. I will not be present so I can't participate, but I have known of tension for a full year now and next to nothing, that I can see, has happened. I can not see how referring this discussion to mailing lists instead of a once-yearly possibility of meeting in person is helping; especially since there has been a year of de facto inactivity. If this discussion is not needed/wanted at all it should be communicated clearly. If it's useful, please let it start at some point. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity.
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