Hi everyone

Happy New Year to you all.

I am really enjoying this discussion and also found it fascinating. I would 
like to use the command line more and while I have some experience with it much 
of what is being discussed here goes over my head.

I am wondering if there are any tutorials available to help someone set a 
system such as the one being discussed up from scratch. Well I can access the 
command line from a GUI I am reliant upon a graphical user interface being 
pre-installed with orca before I can use the command line.

I appreciate that historically Linux was viewed by many as a programmers 
operating system, but in recent years it has become much more user-friendly and 
available to every day computer users.

Any pointers to tutorials to set this up from scratch from a blindness 
perspective it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Warmest wishes

James

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2021, at 05:16, Jordan Livesey <jordanlives...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That is why when you are just starting out on the console, and you know how 
> to set up speak up,  the keyboard shortcuts for that only require you to hold 
> down the caps lock key by default, when ever I do an install I always turn 
> the volume up with caps lock and 2 to turn up the volume, but as a rule of 
> thumb, I generally don’t need to use it as the terminal gets all the work I 
> need done, a simple sudo aptitude update and sudo aptitude upgrade if needed 
> if I check for updates which I do regularly
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2021, at 03:14, Jeffery Mewtamer <mewta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Even with console applications, there are various toolkits that allow
>> for the creation of pseudo-GUIs and many such applications do have a
>> number of keyboard commands, though they don't always adhere to the
>> conventions shared by most GUI applications(e.g. in the Nano text
>> editor, save is ctrl+o, not ctrl+s, cut and paste are ctrl+k and
>> ctrl+u instead of ctrl+x and ctrl+v, and find is ctrl+w instead of
>> ctrl+f)
>> 
>> Most such text-only GUIs are built on ncurses, and there are packages
>> like dialog that allow shell scripts to  to display dialog boxes and
>> scrollable menus.
>> 
>> I also think it worth noting that, on most distros, there isn't just
>> one console, but several and that you can easily switch between them
>> with just a couple of key presses.
>> 
>> As a general rule, each console is reference by the abbreviation tty
>> followed by a number and if you're in one console, you switch to a
>> different one by pressing alt+ the function key corresponding to the
>> number of the console you want. The number varies from distro to
>> distro, but 12 is common, one for each function key on a standard
>> keyboard, though I understand setups with 24 and a distinction made
>> between left alt and right alt when switching aren't uncommon. If
>> you're running an Xserver, it takes up one of the consoles, and if
>> you're in the GUI, you typically need to do trl+alt+fn to break out of
>> the GUI and into the text consoles. If you start x manually, the
>> xserver will be on whichever console you were on when you invoked
>> startx, but if your system boots into the desktop automatically, which
>> console is used for the GUI varies from distro to distro, though I
>> believe tty1 and tty6 or tty7 are the most common.
>> 
>> I usually have a stripped down Xserver running Firefox+Orca on tty1
>> and use tty2+ for everything else... at the moment, I have:
>> 
>> Firefox+Orca running on tty1
>> aumix(a audio mixer) opened in tty2
>> A text file open in nano on tty3
>> tty4 at the command prompt in the directory where the text file that's
>> open in tty3 is located, for easily running wc to get word count of
>> the file without having to close and reopen my editor or if I need to
>> pull up a different file to reference something.
>> tty5 is open to the directory where Firefox dumps all of my downloads.
>> 
>> and from Firefox, I just use ctrl+alt+F2-F5 to jump to aumix, the open
>> text file, the directory where the file is saved, or my downloads
>> directory, and can switch between any of those text consoles with just
>> alt+a function key.
>> 
>> And while I haven't use them, there are utilities like screen and some
>> others to facilitate multi-tasking in a single console.
>> 
>> And if things are properly configured, switching between the console
>> running X and one of the text consoles should seamlessly switch
>> between Orca and your console screen reader, though this can sometimes
>> be tricky to get working right.
>> 
> 

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