Ah, absolutely, there are lots and lots of uses for sarge. But people like me (lazy, stupid, etc.) aren't looking for uses for sarge; we have production systems that they need to run on something and were hoping that something would be Debian. We have definite meanings for words like "testing" and are scared of them. In fact I would like, make that love, to run the whole shop on Debian (currently it's two flavors of Tru64 Unix, one of HP-UX, Windows and Debian, with the resulting sysadmin overhead) but not being "in the Debian community" we are maybe just not yet comfortable with the semantics. And maybe I am in the Debian community because I use Debian, I guess. But I think issues like this, still opaque to me after a couple of years of running Debian, are what's holding it back from wider acceptance.
Sorry all for off-topic series of posts; I am on the point of selling off the Alphas (two 4100s and a huge Storageworks array; any offers?) but will first cook up an Alpha sarge CD and see if it magically brings everything to life. Thanks John -----Original Message----- From: Steve Langasek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 12:57 AM To: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: broadcom drivers debian (was RE: Debian Installer - Problems Partitioning) On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 12:39:04AM -0400, Speakman, John H./Epidemiology-Biostatistics wrote: > Actually, my own e-mail piqued my interest enough to go and try it on > a dl140. The sarge installer is sweet and detects the Broadcom. But > (maybe this is my ignorance about Debian) this is work; who wants to > run a production environment on something that isn't "stable"? Many people, to judge by anecdotal evidence within the Debian community. <shrug> The largest difference between stable and testing is that Debian provides security updates for stable, and for testing you're on your own. If you can get past this hurdle, there are lots of uses sarge can be put to in the time leading up to its official release. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer ===================================================================== Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer.