On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:59:42AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: > I guess you didn't really read my post, or else just missed the whole > point. Multia's, being so low-powered and slow, really aren't usable for > much of anything these days --- except as a cheap > router/firewall/access-point. And even at that, unless you already had > one, I'm sure you could buy a new/used linksys or d-link > router/accesspoint on ebay much cheaper than finding and paying for > shipping on a multia. Right?
I know it's popular among geeks, particularly Debian geeks, to repurpose old hardware to keep it running indefinitely, but power consumption is a real, hidden cost of running old hardware. I don't have any hard numbers, but I'm sorry to say that I suspect buying a new WAP54G AP or similar[1], instead of running a multia[2], will easily pay for itself in terms of your electric bill if you plan to deploy it long-term, and that in terms of environmental and out-of-pocket cost, the best use of an old, low-MHz high-wattage system like a Multia is to scrap it or recycle it. [1] http://hardware.mcse.ms/archive80-2005-8-226230.html [2] http://www.alphalinux.org/archives/axp-list/1998/February1998/0126.html Yes, I know the environmental cost of discarding computer hardware is significant -- that's why I have a box full of old hardware I'll never use again, that I'm sitting on until I have a better option than sending it to a landfill. :/ But the cost of electricity is also non-negligible; it apparently costs me about USD 0.20/month to run my WAP54G by the first URL above, vs. $2.30/mo. as a *conservative* electricity cost for a Multia. At $2.10/mo. and a price of USD 64.99 for a new WAP54G (based on a quick google), assuming for the moment a cost of $0 for the disposal of the Multia (because I don't have any numbers for this :/), a new WAP54G would pay for itself in 2 1/2 years. (And on the flipside of ignoring the cost of disposing of the Multia, we're also using a "0" for the cost of any PCMCIA devices needed to run the Multia as an AP.) Granted, I suppose if you're doing this for the hack value you have to decide how much that's worth to you in itself; but at least for me, the hack value is in doing the hacking, not in keeping it running afterwards in a manner contrary to my own best interest :), so. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]