Dear apache2 maintainers You might have notice that apache2 2.4.12 is still stuck in unstable.
Here's an extract from a discussion I had on IRC on Monday: --- 8< -------------------- (14:30:14) nirgal: Hi there. After no longer building some Jessie transitional packages, we filled a RM request in unstable (#787923 resolved yesterday at 18:32). I now have a "Valid candidate", but apache2 still isn't migrating to testing with some "more excuses". dak should have run 2 or 3 times since then. Am I just too impatient or is there something to do here? https://packages.qa.debian.org/apache2 (14:30:18) zwiebelbot: (notice) Debian#787923: RM: apache2 -- NBS; ROM; Remove obsolete transitional packages - https://bugs.debian.org/787923 (14:37:22) adsb: the britney log says (14:37:25) adsb: * amd64: apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-mpm-worker, apache2-suexec (14:37:34) adsb: which means they're not installable if apache2 migrates (14:39:20) nirgal: adsb: These packages no longer exists in 2.4.12 (actually apache2-suexec is now virtual) (14:40:08) adsb: yeah, not immediately sure why they're not being dropped then (14:40:11) adsb: nthykier: ^^ (14:44:14) adsb: oh, I see why. because they were in section oldlibs, so britney will try and keep them around iff they have any r-deps in testing (14:46:19) adsb: which the mpm packages don't appear to have. so I'm back at nthykier :) (15:42:42) nthykier: dak says: (15:42:42) nthykier: # Broken Depends: (15:42:42) nthykier: ikiwiki-hosting: ikiwiki-hosting-web (15:42:45) nthykier: For testing (15:42:54) nthykier: adsb: nirgal: ^ (15:43:05) adsb: that appears to be apache2-suexec, which is now virtual (15:43:23) adsb: for just the mpm packages, there appear to be no r-deps (15:44:11) nthykier: The mpm ones look weird indeed (15:46:38) adsb: hmmm, there are alternative dependencies (15:47:37) adsb: freedombox-setup depends on apache2|apache2-mpm-worker and openguides depends on apache2-mpm-prefork|apache|httpd. so it depends what smooth updates is doing with those (15:58:31) nthykier: adsb: assumes it should keep them (16:00:55) nirgal: adsb, nthykier: last versions of apache2-mpm-* (transitional packages) were depending on apache2 anyways. Should freedombox and openguides drop the alternate dependency for the migration to happen? (16:03:40) nthykier: nirgal: it would fix it, but we should fix Britney regardless (16:05:14) nirgal: Regarding ikiwiki-hosting-web that depends on apache2-suexec that now is a virtual package, I'm don't really understand what we should do. We could try uploading a version replacing apache2-suexec by apache2-suexec-custom|apache2-suexec-pristine, then back to apache2-suexec after the migration, but this is... suboptimal (16:05:20) adsb: we could temporarily fudge things in this case by dropping oldlibs from smooth updates. it's a fudge, but it's the simplest thing I can think of short term (16:09:44) nthykier: or you can force-hint it - Britney will remove them afterwards (17:38:48) nirgal: nthykier: adsb: Regarding apache2-suexec, as a virtual package, it is already provided by apache2-suexec-pristine and apache2-suexec-custom in 2.4.10 (testing=stretch), so the binary could be removed there, FYI. Regarding the mpm-* alternate dependencies, I opened #791594 and #791597 (plus #791595 and #791596 for recommends). What should I do now? fix these? Open a ticker against release quoting that conversation and work arounds? (17:39:02) zwiebelbot: (notice) Debian#791594: Don't depend on obsolete packages apache2-mpm-prefork|apache|httpd - https://bugs.debian.org/791594 (17:39:04) zwiebelbot: (notice) Debian#791597: Remove apache2-mpm-worker from the depends list - https://bugs.debian.org/791597 (17:39:05) zwiebelbot: (notice) Debian#791595: Don't recommend apache2-mpm-prefork - https://bugs.debian.org/791595 (17:39:05) zwiebelbot: (notice) Debian#791596: Don't recommends inexistant package apache2-mpm-worker - https://bugs.debian.org/791596 (18:45:18) The account has disconnected and you are no longer in this chat. --- 8< -------------------- If I understand correctly, the main problem is in dak, but it's now been some time that apache2 hasn't been updated in testing. I plan to NMU #791594 and #791597 next week (packages popcon respectively are 7 and 2...) I don't quite know what to do about apache2-suexec. We could NMU ikiwiki, or reintroduce the package through the NEW queue, or fix dak, or open a bugreport against release to ask for help in the migration. Any idea? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-apache-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/559e7f2a.10...@debian.org
