* David Kalnischkies <da...@kalnischkies.de> [2015-11-30 22:22:08 CET]: > In other words: If you have experimental sources on your stable system, > packages new in experimental will be automatically installed, too, if > requested without any force needed (it won't be upgraded through as > installed is pinned 100 which is higher than 1). Everything else would > be against how pinning works – and its like that for 17 years now, so it > can't be all bad – aka: feature.
I really consider the reasoning of "it always has been that way" kinda disturbing, frankly spoken. It has been used in very bad areas over the history of human development, please don't use it. That's not really an argument. > I don't think this is wrong, given that you have this source enabled and > you want that package installed, so not offering this solution would be > a disservice. Pretty much the same thing as with non-free. And with my backports hat on I consider the comparison of backports with non-free quite disrespectful, too ... > Personally, I am in the "enable backports by default" camp as I believe > that most people who issue a "apt install foo" want foo installed and do > not care enough about stable vs. backports to say 'no' to the solution > even IF they would know at the right moment that foo comes from > backports (same for non-free) Again - please do *not* compare backports with non-free. And that you consider people not to care is a fair bit disturbing. The objection to putting backports into the default install should be reason enough for you that there are people who *do* care and you shouldn't disregard their opinion with a statement of people don't care anyway. > but I can perfectly understand that some want to hold that off until > everyone actually has the information at the right moment. [That is > not to say that the treatment by a user doesn't change if she knows – > I prefer potentially buggy open firmware over closed one for example > and given the choice of cake via backports or no cake, I will opt for > backports accepting less service than stable, So you are applying your own opinion to all users - including the ones that explicitly tell you that they care differently. Way to go. Please understand that others might have different opinions on that and that those views are valid, too. So long, Rhonda -- Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los | Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los | Wir sind Helden Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los |
