Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: sarge-i386-netinst.iso 2004-05-02 03:00 (Beta-4) uname -a: linux goofy 2.4.25-1-386 #2 Wed Apr 14 19:38:08 EST 2004 i686 unknown Date: Sun, 08 May 2004 Method: Tried both linux and linux26
===================================================================== No major unexpected hardware issues. Just some issues on usability. Key points: (1) 2.6 kernel needs to be upgraded to 2.6.5 series for Sony Vaio. (2) grub install location needs kinder explanation. (Very important) (3) The query in "Time zone configuration" is confusing (important) (4) Password setup query typo. (minor) (Extra) How do I capture boot screen? I foregot it... :-( Details: (1) 2.6 kernel needs to be upgraded to 2.6.5 series. Since the kernel experiences panic with older 2.6 kernel but I found the latest 2.6.5 one seems to work OK, why not update kernel on sarge-i386-netinst.iso. (Old ones were crashing system on my gradually upgraded sid one in /dev/hda5.) (2) grub install location needs kinder explanation. When installing GRUB boot loader on a hard disk, it asks something like: "The device can be specified GRUB's "(hdn)" notation..." while input box has "(hd0)" in it. This is surely intimidating phrases. More verbose phrase or button to HELP screen are needed here since this is the critical action. For example, addition of few lines will makes it much clearer and less intimidating: The device can be specified HURD's "(hdn)" notation or Linux's "/dev/hdx". For example: (hd0) or /dev/hda -- MBR of the 1st IDE disk (hd0,3) or /dev/hda4 -- 4th primary partition of the 1st IDE disk (hd1,4) or /dev/hdb5 -- 1st logical partition of the 2nd IDE disk (I think skipping devfs names are OK. Also SCSI can be skipped since those who dare to use SCSI should read the manual.) Also adding some pointer for how to update GRUB information will be a good idea. (3) The query in "Time zone configuration" is confusing The nuance of "system time" varies depending on program or documentation causing some confusion (/etc/default/rcS and "man hwclock"). (At least to me since woody) Also you may have BIOS time set previously for Windows but you may want to use UTC for BIOS time after installing Linux. Why not change this "Time zone configuration" query something along following: Unix system time (GMT) is set during the boot process from the hardware (BIOS) clock (configured by /etc/default/rcS). Although it is recommended to set this hardware clock to GMT for Linux-only system, Other OS such as windows will require you to set hardware clock to the localtime for compatibility. Your hardware clock currently indicates ??????????????????. (You can adjust this hardware clock time value from BIOS or from Linux with hwclock command later.) Will the system time set from the hardware clock assuming it is GMT? (If no, it will assume it to be the localtime.) <Yes> <*No*> I think /etc/default/rcS entry should be ===NOW=== # Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set to UTC (GMT), and UTC=no if # not. ===CORRECT=== # Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set during boot process by # assuming the hardware (BIOS) clock being calibrated as UTC (GMT), # and UTC=no if not. (4) Password setup query typo. The query of "Password setup" has two practically identical lines. (one with "the", the other with "a"). These are redundant. ============================================================================ Configuration information: Machine: Sony Vaio PCG-GRX690 (P4+ATI radeon mobility 7500) Processor: P4 Memory: 512MB Root Device: IDE on /dev/hda and installed system into /dev/hda9 (5GB) Root Size/partition table: Manual using previous one. Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 116280 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 31079 15663343+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 31079 116280 42941714 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 31079 61567 15366141 83 Linux /dev/hda6 61567 65631 2048256 82 Linux swap /dev/hda7 65631 75337 4891761 83 Linux /dev/hda8 * 75337 85043 4891761 83 Linux /dev/hda9 85043 94749 4891761 83 Linux /dev/hda10 94749 116280 10851876 83 Linux Output of lspci: (rebooted into sid with latest 2.6.5-1-686) 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02) 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 42) 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02) 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 0000:02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev a8) 0000:02:05.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev a8) 0000:02:05.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C552 IEEE 1394 Controller 0000:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42) Base System Installation Checklist: (with 2.4 kernel: linux) Initial boot worked: [O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems: [O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system: [O] Install boot loader: [O] Reboot: [O] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Base System Installation Checklist: (with 2.6.3-1 kernel: linux26) Initial boot worked: [E] Yes, good old kernel panic. Configure network HW: [ ] Config network: [ ] Detect CD: [ ] Load installer modules: [ ] Detect hard drives: [ ] Partition hard drives: [ ] Create file systems: [ ] Mount partitions: [ ] Install base system: [ ] Install boot loader: [ ] Reboot: [ ] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it -- System Information: (This is my dual boot partition) Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.5-1-686 Locale: LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1, LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ +++++ Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brussels Belgium, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. 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