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Package: installation-reports

powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac

See Note 1 below...


INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: <Fill in date and from where you got the 
image>


        Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current
        
         Name                           Last modified       Size  Description
        ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        
         Parent Directory               12-Sep-2004 00:13      -
         MD5SUMS                        12-Sep-2004 00:13     1k
 >>>> sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso 12-Sep-2004 00:07   140M
         sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso      12-Sep-2004 00:13   297M
        ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Apache/1.3.31 Server at cdimage.debian.org Port 80



uname -a: <The result of running uname -a on a shell prompt>

        Linux debian 2.6.8-powerpc #1 Fri Aug 27 18:02:26 CEST 2004 ppc 
GNU/Linux


Date: <Date and time of the install>

        3:00 AM US East Coast time Sept 12, 2004


Method: How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
       install, from where?  Proxied?

        MacOS BootX using the "2.6" kernel and initrd.gz
        from the install/powerpc folder on the indicated
        businesscard CD image with an assist from the
        uchicago "testing" mirror


Machine: <Description of machine (eg, IBM Thinkpad R32)>

        PowerMac G3/300 MHz



Processor:

        processor   : 0
        cpu         : 740/750
        temperature         : 36-41 C (uncalibrated)
        clock               : 300MHz
        revision    : 2.2 (pvr 0008 0202)
        bogomips    : 601.29
        machine             : Power Macintosh
        motherboard : AAPL,Gossamer MacRISC
        detected as : 48 (PowerMac G3 (Gossamer))
        pmac flags  : 00000000
        L2 cache    : 1024K unified pipelined-syncro-burst
        memory              : 384MB
        pmac-generation     : OldWorld


Memory:

        384 MB


Root Device: <IDE?  SCSI?  Name of device?>

        root is on /dev/hdg10.  Swap is on /dev/hdg8. macOS is on /dev/hdg6

        /dev/hdg
                #                    type name                  length   
base      ( size )  system
        /dev/hdg1     Apple_partition_map Apple                     63 
@ 1         ( 31.5k)  Partition map
        /dev/hdg2          Apple_Driver43 Macintosh                 54 
@ 64        ( 27.0k)  Driver 4.3
        /dev/hdg3          Apple_Driver43 Macintosh                 74 
@ 118       ( 37.0k)  Driver 4.3
        /dev/hdg4      Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh                512 
@ 192       (256.0k)  Unknown
        /dev/hdg5           Apple_Patches Patch Partition          512 
@ 704       (256.0k)  Unknown
        /dev/hdg6               Apple_HFS untitled             2097152 
@ 1216      (  1.0G)  HFS
        /dev/hdg7         Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root                19531251 
@ 2098368   (  9.3G)  Linux native
        /dev/hdg8         Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap                 1953126 
@ 21629619  (953.7M)  Linux swap
        /dev/hdg9         Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root                19531251 
@ 23582745  (  9.3G)  Linux native
        /dev/hdg10        Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Root-10              5859376 
@ 43113996  (  2.8G)  Linux native
        /dev/hdg11             Apple_Free Extra               52734377 
@ 48973372  ( 25.1G)  Free space
        /dev/hdg12             Apple_Free Extra              113607707 
@ 206565349 ( 54.2G)  Free space
        /dev/hdg13        Apple_UNIX_SVR2 SuZq               104857600 
@ 101707749 ( 50.0G)  Linux native
        
        Block size=512, Number of Blocks=320173056
        DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
        Drivers-
        1: @ 64 for 23, type=0x1
        2: @ 118 for 36, type=0xffff



Root Size/partition table:  Feel free to paste the full partition
       table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
Output of lspci and lspci -n:

        0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Motorola MPC106 [Grackle] (rev 40)
        0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 
Ethernet (rev 10)
        0000:00:0e.0 SCSI storage controller: Artop Electronic Corp 
ATP865 (rev 06)
        0000:00:0f.0 PCI bridge: Hint Corp HB6 Universal PCI-PCI bridge 
(non-transparent mode) (rev 13)
        0000:00:10.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. Heathrow Mac I/O (rev 01)
        0000:00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D 
Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 GT] (rev 9a)
        0000:01:08.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41)
        0000:01:08.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41)
        0000:01:08.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 02)
        0000:01:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 
IEEE-1394 Controller (Link)
        
        0000:00:00.0 0600: 1057:0002 (rev 40)
        0000:00:0d.0 0200: 1186:1300 (rev 10)
        0000:00:0e.0 0100: 1191:0009 (rev 06)
        0000:00:0f.0 0604: 3388:0021 (rev 13)
        0000:00:10.0 ff00: 106b:0010 (rev 01)
        0000:00:12.0 0300: 1002:4754 (rev 9a)
        0000:01:08.0 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 41)
        0000:01:08.1 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 41)
        0000:01:08.2 0c03: 1033:00e0 (rev 02)
        0000:01:0b.0 0c00: 104c:8020


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:    [o]
Configure network HW:   [?]
Config network:         [?]
Detect CD:              [o]
Load installer modules: [o]
Detect hard drives:     [o]
Partition hard drives:  [o]
Create file systems:    [?]
Mount partitions:       [o]
Install base system:    [o]
Install boot loader:    [ ]
Reboot:                 [?]

Comments/Problems:

<Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments
       and ideas you had during the initial install.>


Note 1:

        This machine has a SCSI Zip drive is on the apple
        "mesh" scsi controller.  Before the "discover disks"
        phase, I had to go to the F2 console and manually
        "modprobe mesh" to get it to recognize the Zip disk.
         Because the mesh driver module was loaded behind
        d-i's back (so to speak), d-i didn't know about it,
        and as a result, "mesh" wasn't carried forward to
        /etc/modules after the reboot. (see note 3)

        Many (most?) oldworld PowerMac's have the "mesh"
        scsi controller as their *only* (and in any case
        *primary*) mass-storage interface.  Failure to load
        the mesh driver module will make it impossible for
        inexperienced users to install Debian on their
        machines.  It seems to me that the mesh driver
        should be loaded by default on *all* oldworld
        PowerMac machines.

        The problem is made more complicated because the
        "mesh" chip is on the motherboard, and so doesn't
        show up in the output of "lspci".  This only
        strengthens the argument for loading the mesh driver
        by default.


Note 2:

        "Select Keyboard" defaults to "European", even though
        I answered all the location (US) and language
        (English) questions up to then so as to indicate
        that "American English" was the appropriate default.
        I manually chose the "American English" keyboard
        layout.
        
        I don't know if it's related, but after the reboot,
        perl and man (among others) complained about the the
        locale being not supported or installed.  The
        /etc/environment file contained:
                LANG="en"
                LANGUAGE="en_GB:en_US:en"
        I would have thought that "en_US" should have come
        first in "LANGUAGE" and (maybe) replaced "en" as the
        correct value for "LANG".

Note 3:

        This machine has two ethernet interfaces.  One is directly
        on the motherboard and uses the "bmac" driver.  It supports
        10-Base-T only.  The other is on a PCI card from D-link and
        uses the "8139too" driver.  It supports 100-Base-T.  I
        want to use the faster (D-link) card, and ignore the slower
        (bmac) card.  Every time d-i did a hardware detect phase
        (both "discover network hardware" and "discover disk
        hardware"), it offered to load the "bmac" driver for me.
        Each time it offered, I specifically declined (un-checked
        the "bmac" button on the options list).  I also chose the
        "D-link" card as my "primary" network interface when it
        asked.
        
        Nevertheless, after the reboot, in the /etc/modules
        file, there it was -- big as life, first thing in
        the file -- "bmac".  Consequently, the "bmac" driver
        module was loaded before the "8139too" module, and
        the bmac interface was accorded status as "eth0".
        DHCP failed as a result. Interestingly, there was no
        mention of "8139too" in the /etc/modules file at
        all.  I assume it was loaded by some other mechanism
        than the /etc/modules file.
        
        When I edited /etc/modules so that the first three lines
        were:
                8139too
                bmac
                mesh
        it was able to do DHCP and it was able to see my SCSI Zip
        drive (see note 1).

Note 4:

        When it asked which kernel to install, near the end
        of the first part of the installation process, the
        default was the 2.6.7 kernel, even though 2.6.8 was
        available and listed among the options. I manually
        chose kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc.

Note 5:

        After the reboot, I told it to install the "print server"
        task.  Possibly as a consequence of the locale anomaly
        mentioned in note 2, the setup for that task gave me the
        default option of "a4" paper.  I manually chose "letter", as
        befits my location in the US.

Note 6:

        Every time it tried to discover hardware (both "network" and
        "disks") it offered me a chance to load the "floppy (Linux
        Floppy)" driver.  Each time I told it to go ahead (left the
        relevant button checked).  Each time, according to the logs,
        it failed to load that driver.
        
        During the first phase of the installation, I
        attempted to mount a floppy disk, remembering my
        troubles with previous tests to save log files to a
        floppy.  It failed.  With a mac formatted (HFS)
        floppy in the drive:
                # mkdir /mnt
                # mount -t hfs /dev/floppy/0 /mnt
                mount: Mounting /dev/floppy/0 on /mnt failed: No such device
        
        interestingly, after the reboot the floppy drive was
        recognized.  But there was no "/media/floppy" directory.
        Isn't this the usual mount point for floppy disks?
        
        Is it relevant that the OldWorld PowerMacs used a "swim"
        floppy controller, which requires a different software
        driver from the floppy controllers usually used in PCs?

Note 7:

        While the partitioner was "checking" my swap
        partition (why does it do that?  It takes a long
        time.  What is actually being accomplished?) I
        switched to the F2 console and looked at
        "/proc/swaps".  It appears that the partitioner is
        checking an *active* swap partition!  This is not a
        problem for large memory machines, but it may be a
        serious problem on a small memory machine.



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Source: ddetect
Source-Version: 1.06

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
ddetect, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

archdetect_1.06_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/archdetect_1.06_i386.udeb
ddetect_1.06.dsc
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ddetect_1.06.dsc
ddetect_1.06.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ddetect_1.06.tar.gz
ethdetect_1.06_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ethdetect_1.06_all.udeb
hw-detect-full_1.06_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/hw-detect-full_1.06_all.udeb
hw-detect_1.06_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/hw-detect_1.06_i386.udeb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

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Format: 1.7
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:02:47 -0400
Source: ddetect
Binary: hw-detect-full archdetect hw-detect ethdetect
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 1.06
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Changed-By: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 archdetect - Hardware architecture detector (udeb)
 ethdetect  - Detect network hardware and load kernel drivers for it (udeb)
 hw-detect  - Detect hardware and load kernel drivers for it (udeb)
 hw-detect-full - Detect hardware and load kernel drivers for it (full version) (udeb)
Closes: 269655 271419
Changes: 
 ddetect (1.06) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Colin Watson
     - Add the ability to back up from the error messages you get if
       ethdetect can't find any network interfaces. We could probably do with
       a state machine of some kind here.
     - mac-io bus detection improvements:
       + Detect mesh SCSI controller (closes: #269655, #271419).
       + Detect mace Ethernet controller.
       + Detect mac53c94 SCSI controller.
       + Detect therm_adt746x and therm_windtunnel fan controllers, although
         only post-reboot for now since those modules aren't in
         linux-kernel-di-powerpc-*.
       + Cope with /proc/device-tree/aliases/mac-io pointing to a symlink.
   * Bastian Blank
     - Add archdetect-deb package.
   * Joey Hess
     - Temporarily disable archdetect-deb for this upload, don't want to wait
       for NEW processing for a deb.
   * Updated translations:
     - Bulgarian (bg.po) by Ognyan Kulev
     - German (de.po) by Dennis Stampfer
     - Greek, Modern (1453-) (el.po) by Greek Translation Team
     - Spanish (Castilian) (es.po) by Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Peña
     - French (fr.po) by French Team
     - Hebrew (he.po) by Lior Kaplan
     - Lithuanian (lt.po) by Kęstutis Biliūnasn
     - Bøkmal, Norwegian (nb.po) by Axel Bojer
     - Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski
     - Portuguese (Brazil) (pt_BR.po) by André Luís Lopes
     - Russian (ru.po) by Russian L10N Team
     - Slovenian (sl.po) by Jure Čuhalev
     - Swedish (sv.po) by Per Olofsson
Files: 
 425928bab10616b6467e4bf575080a5d 844 debian-installer standard ddetect_1.06.dsc
 5d2f35543415b0c395048ad04ac3ec75 104910 debian-installer standard ddetect_1.06.tar.gz
 4513f8c86803113c1148ce8e388b2e02 30700 debian-installer optional 
ethdetect_1.06_all.udeb
 c4684502a99a5a01e5c2fe2b1bdd1a13 2696 debian-installer standard 
hw-detect-full_1.06_all.udeb
 e4d7d1ef35a3b65deedb61094f2ada56 50358 debian-installer standard 
hw-detect_1.06_i386.udeb
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archdetect_1.06_i386.udeb
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