On 6/20/06, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:50:31PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: following the wiki or using the build script committed in extremadura you should be able to build any of the g-i libs and that is what Sven, Attilio and myself did. Packaging the libraries, requires alot more; I just got the impression you are not confident with none of those (and I really do not mean to offend you anyhow by saying that)
On the contrary, I have trust in your, Attilio's and Sven's work. I just want to take this to the next level. I don't think it helps a lot if I do something which has been done before, does it ;-) ?
> I got no clear response on that matter from gtk/gnome people on the > debian channel, and also I have faced some issues that made me believe > that having two cairo.so files in two different places could be > problematic; indeed I might have been wrong by not carifying that I > was talking about _my_ effort. I think it was not appropriate to involve two MLs and Dave to sort out your doubt: cairo has been successfully used to produce working images and that is enough to say it is working.
Err, your are missing the point, you and everybody else used only one library the cairo.so which is build against -directfb. I am not sure that in the context of packaging gtk this is fesable because you have to specify the library used for linking ( -lcairo ), and that is provided for the single source package gtk+2.0 by two -dev packages which both have such a library. What I am NOT sure (and that was one of the points of my initial mail) is if this can be done for a package depending on both.
> >You write on d-boot "hey, g-I is fucked on ppc" as you did with Cyrillic > >fonts, > >And then you expect within a couple of hours to find a hundred messages > >on your > >Mailbox asking for details or providing a fix? > > Err, the problem was observed on the 18th of May, and I was expecting,
[cut, me saying wrongly that I have reported this the first time on the list on]
> the 30th of May.
you reported the pb in [1] and the very same day I replied asking for infos
Yes, you are right I didn't report it first time on the 30th, but still since the 22nd until the 25th still there are not "a couple of hours". Read further.
you did not provide until the IRC discussion when you unfairly accused Colin.
Get your act together, read [1] which was sent on the 23rd. I CC-ed Colin on that in the hope I'll rasie his attention. you asked if I could reproduce [2] and obviousely that was reproducible since the fix came on the 26th. I have done that [3] on the 25th and also provided some screenshots.
I asked you again to provide the infos and within 12 hours Colin merged ppc stuff from Frans' branch into trunk.
On the 25th @ 21:06+3 when I said that Collin didn't cared about the issue. He himself has acknowledged that he didn't looked at the problem. He moved the build to the trunk on the 26th @ 14:05+1 And he didn't provided an explicit link to the images nor did he updated the links on the wiki. I am not acusing him, is just the information was missing.
You said the problem was still present [2] (and I had to ask you the very same
At the second round of images when I actually tested a wrong (old) image because of a wrongly setup cron job which couldn't overwrite a file made by the root user. Indeed that was my mistake and I have said that publicly. If I remember correctly I had dowloaded the wrong image by hand because of this lack of info.
questions again [3]), and at the end it was you using the wrong image. That did piss me off even more and I think such failure reports are all but useful.
Flashnews, nobody's perfect. I acknowldged that was my mistake. I hope you don't have to near somebody digging up dirt from your past to pour it in your head. Especially when you have acknowledged publicly you were wrong. Still I fail to see what does this have to do with my work on the gtk packages.
> Are you sure[2]? right, my fault (i'm sure some posts you bamed it on that patch though)
Can you backup that afirmation? taking into account the omissions before I suspect your memory is cheating on you. I don't remember saying anything about any patch. The touchpad issue was reported by someone else while I had said that the G-I didn't started on ppc suspecting some input problems because of the messages I could see between the crashes.
> >If that's your idea of testing things I'd say is not very effective and > >as a consequence it > >Takes a long time before problems get fixed. > > What part of [1] didn't you understand? it's crystal clear. reporting problems the way you did, especially when many ppl are on different arches, does not help at all IMO, but
A lot of hand waving... I said PPC, what does "diffrent arches" has anything to do this?
go on that way if you think I'm wrong.
I have said I will try to test the images weekly. I expected somebody else (maybe the officail porter) to do the actual fixing since I said clearly this was not possible for me to do because of lack of time. In the font issue it was only Colin who could fix this. Me using a wrong image was an unfortunate incident in which neither of the parts involved was to be fully blamable. As far as I know this in not my ususal way of reporting, if not please contradict me and I will step back from this because I don't want to be a burden on the people doing the actual work.
> I hope your mail does not hide other feelings than your concern for > G-I, because I feel that I am not wanted to be doing G-I work. that's your own way of reading my message. I think you did wrong and I told you the reason why I think so without hiding anything;
Thanks for telling me (this is not irony at all).
feel free to do whatever you want the way you want.
I already did that, didn't I? And it seems you don't agree. Why? You think that we should wait for the GNOME people to do thier work. I see them busy with other things and I want to help them. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg00955.html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg00958.html [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg01085.html -- Regards, EddyP ============================================= "Imagination is more important than knowledge" A.Einstein