[I've trimmed the CCes a bit.] On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 07:52:12PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Andreas Henriksson <andr...@fatal.se> wrote: > > Hello Adrian! > > > > Thanks for raising awareness about this issue. If there's anything > > I can do to help please tell me. That the new util-linux version hasn't > > been built yet sounds like it can't be avoided as it was just uploaded > > and unfortunately the sysvinit and util-linux update is a lockstep > > upgrade where both change at the same time as things are moved between > > the packages. There's no intermediate step possible, because the > > moved binaries always needs to be available at all times and thus > > have tight dependencies in both directions. Not sure how dependencies > > affects the build of these packages though.... They should both be > > able to build on systems with older versions of the packages installed > > and build independently. > > that sounds like the kind of thing that would cause nightmare > circular build dependencies for anyone porting to a new architecture > [which i'm considering doing: mvp from icubecorp]. > > would that be correct - that if there *is* no "older version" it > would now be impossible to build both [or either] of the packages - or > am i mistaken?
It's not normally that bad. Old packages exist in snapshot.d.o. In the case of util-linux that the original poster talks about, the old version of util-linux is still in the chroots of the buildd, its just that wanna-build no longer knows about that version so does not offer util-linux for building, so one has to manually schedule a build and binary upload. The situation is different for boot strapping a new architecture. There are quite a number of circular build-dependencies and one breaks the circle with a variety of techniques, one of which is cross-building. Cheers Michael. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150518195914.GA1661@tower
