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Subject: debootstrap: sarge/sid target needs update after stable release
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Package: debootstrap
Version: 0.1.17.23
Severity: wishlist
Issue:
Current package practice of debootstrap is almost guaranteed to *fail*
for testing (sarge for now) and unstable (sid) target after the stable
release of Debian.
Assessment:
This debootstrap package is one of many packages which requires data
from unstable package to be current and useful.
Corrective action request:
Please split data part of package (/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/*) from
the code part.
Rationale:
This package split will make it easy to upgrade only data without
package version conflict.
Discussion:
Debian thrives to make its package work in very stable manner after its
stable release. This is our priority. In light of this, let me file a
wishlist bug on debootstrap to enable path to install testing-chroot or
unstable-chroot on a stable system after its release.
I realize that post woody version of debootstrap seems to contain target
defining files for both sid and sarge which are different from woody.
(Woody version had sid target but is was merely a link to woody one.)
These have been constantly updated with NMU by boot-floppies and
pbuilder people.
This new addition is good if we are running unstable (sid) system and
if you want to install sarge or older. But I think this approach has
some fundamental flaw to set up testing-chroot or unstable-chroot
directly on a stable system after the stable release (Yes, we can always
upgrade chrooted system, but why waist bandwidth.)
Currently, debootstrap has external dependency (libc6 version) which
prevent its newer sid version to be installed on older stable system
easily.
I think we need a new approach to address these needs and it shall be a
simple and long term solution. I think splitting package as described
above solve this issue. Specifically:
1. Split update requiring data part as separate packages.
debootstrap-core
debootstrap-data
This contains files under /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/
2. Use usual, provide/conflict things for smooth upgrade path.
(One fancy idea is to use dpkg-divert to make this debootstrap-data
co-exist with woody version of debootstrap. Then conflict may not be
needed. Too complicated for me though.)
3. Add an instruction in README.Debian which leads people who wishes to
have access to the latest base file information to use pin-priority
to lock data part of package to the unstable (or testing) version.
4. Continue to update "sarge" (or testing codename at the moment) and
"sid" through NMU for the data package by boot floppy folks as now.
(If there is dependency driven incompatibility, we can indicate it too.)
I think many Debian package which provides data should take this
approach. (SPAM filter etc may be in similar situation.)
Really long term solution may be establishing solid infrastructure to
allow these data updates to be included to the stable upgrade. (I am
not asking this now. Too many issues. I am happy with security
bugfix-only policy.)
Osamu
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Versions of packages debootstrap depends on:
ii binutils 2.13.90.0.18-1.7 The GNU assembler, linker and bina
ii libc6 2.3.1-16 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii wget 1.8.2-10 retrieves files from the web
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Subject: Bug#193134: fixed in debootstrap 0.3.1
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Source: debootstrap
Source-Version: 0.3.1
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debootstrap, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:
debootstrap-udeb_0.3.1_i386.udeb
to pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap-udeb_0.3.1_i386.udeb
debootstrap_0.3.1.dsc
to pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.1.dsc
debootstrap_0.3.1.tar.gz
to pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.1.tar.gz
debootstrap_0.3.1_all.deb
to pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.1_all.deb
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:22:55 +1000
Source: debootstrap
Binary: debootstrap-udeb debootstrap
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 0.3.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Changed-By: Anthony Towns <[email protected]>
Description:
debootstrap - Bootstrap a basic Debian system
debootstrap-udeb - Bootstrap the Debian system (udeb)
Closes: 88984 122465 131552 193134 229314 231109 244563 313383
Changes:
debootstrap (0.3.1) unstable; urgency=low
.
* sid script updated:
- Determine base dynamically (Priority: required for required packages,
Priority: important for base packages, Build-Essential: yes for buildd
variant base). (Closes: Bug#88984, Bug#193134)
- Use fine grained dpkg progress display, thanks again to Colin Watson.
(Closes: Bug#229314, Bug#231109, Bug#244563)
.
* dpkg output (etc) goes to /var/log/bootstrap.log in the target, rather
than stdout. This is probably difficult for frontends to capture
at present.
.
* Parsing of Packages file sped up. (Yay!)
.
* debootstrap.deb now arch: all (Closes: Bug#122465, Bug#131552)
- perl implementation of pkgdetails used by preference
- devices.tar.gz reduced to minimal set of devices; frontends should
setup udev or supply their own devices or similar in future
- /usr/lib/debootstrap/arch not shipped
- none of the above applies to udebs yet; though the devices.tar.gz
change will eventually
.
* Support for verifying based on Release.gpg files (--keyring). Thanks
to Colin Watson. (Closes: Bug#313383)
Files:
67fe34603f916b068328a43ea307bc2b 600 admin - debootstrap_0.3.1.dsc
af3295b21eca76c07a91cb23a9b85474 44137 admin - debootstrap_0.3.1.tar.gz
3aa4644988c6fc61806fa47b06c8bca6 48704 debian-installer required
debootstrap-udeb_0.3.1_i386.udeb
b481cd5274c77d36988beec3936b6175 39994 admin extra debootstrap_0.3.1_all.deb
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