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Package: mumble
Version: 1.2.0~beta1-1
Severity: wishlist
For human it is normal to hear noise when they are talking over a telephone
line. It was normal when analog transmission was used. When no one talks
little white noise can be heard. This one is missing if no call is made. This
small white noise comes from electric effects during the data transmission
over analog channels.
When ISDN came to germany this little noise was gone since the whole data
transmission to the user was digital. Digital endpoints are in most cases the
telephones and so there is nearly no white noise generated anywhere. Most
calls in that time by normal users were something like that "Hi, John here",
"Hi here is your grandma. Have you heard that Bob has married. Are you eating
enough.... are you still there?" "Yes, g'ma" "I thought you hang up. - the
line was dead"
After a while the manufacturers of digital endpoints added a little white
noise. Just use two ISDN telephones, call each other and then hear what sound
they make - even if in both rooms is complete silence. This informed grandma
that we are still connected and makes both feeling fine - even if grandma is
only talking and John takes a nap.
The same problem happens now with voice over ip. It seems to be a good idea to
add white noise (configurable volume) when we are connected. I heard that
Skype does it to prevent the same problem.
--- System information. ---
Architecture: amd64
Kernel: Linux 2.6.31-1-amd64
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
500 unstable ftp.debian.org
--- Package information. ---
Depends (Version) | Installed
================================================-+-===================
libasound2 (>> 1.0.18) | 1.0.21a-1
libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 (>= 0.6.16) | 0.6.25-2
libc6 (>= 2.3.4) | 2.10.2-2
libg15daemon-client1 | 1.9.5.3-7
libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) | 1:4.4.2-3
libgl1-mesa-glx | 7.6-1
OR libgl1 |
libglu1-mesa | 7.6-1
OR libglu1 |
libprotobuf4 | 2.2.0-0.1
libpulse0 (>= 0.9.16) | 0.9.21-1
libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libqt4-opengl (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libqt4-sql (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libqt4-svg (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.5.3-4
libsndfile1 | 1.0.20-3
libspeechd2 | 0.6.7-7
libspeex1 (>= 1.2~beta3-1) | 1.2~rc1-1
libspeexdsp1 (>= 1.2~beta3.2-1) | 1.2~rc1-1
libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-5) | 0.9.8k-7
libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) | 4.4.2-3
libx11-6 | 2:1.3.2-1
libxi6 | 2:1.2.1-2
gconf2 (>= 2.12.1-1) | 2.28.0-1
libqt4-sql-sqlite | 4:4.5.3-4
lsb-release | 3.2-23
Recommends (Version) | Installed
================================-+-===========
speech-dispatcher |
mumble-11x | 1.2.0~beta1-1
Suggests (Version) | Installed
============================-+-===========
mumble-server |
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Peter Fritzsche schrieb:
> Package: mumble
> Version: 1.2.0~beta1-1
> Severity: wishlist
>
> For human it is normal to hear noise when they are talking over a telephone
> line. It was normal when analog transmission was used. When no one talks
> little white noise can be heard. This one is missing if no call is made. This
> small white noise comes from electric effects during the data transmission
> over analog channels.
>
> When ISDN came to germany this little noise was gone since the whole data
> transmission to the user was digital. Digital endpoints are in most cases the
> telephones and so there is nearly no white noise generated anywhere. Most
> calls in that time by normal users were something like that "Hi, John here",
> "Hi here is your grandma. Have you heard that Bob has married. Are you eating
> enough.... are you still there?" "Yes, g'ma" "I thought you hang up. - the
> line was dead"
>
> After a while the manufacturers of digital endpoints added a little white
> noise. Just use two ISDN telephones, call each other and then hear what sound
> they make - even if in both rooms is complete silence. This informed grandma
> that we are still connected and makes both feeling fine - even if grandma is
> only talking and John takes a nap.
>
> The same problem happens now with voice over ip. It seems to be a good idea
> to
> add white noise (configurable volume) when we are connected. I heard that
> Skype does it to prevent the same problem.
Hi,
sorry this is wontfix. mumble is also designed for e.g. gamers and there
it is not a good idea to have a white noise in your ear when you are
awaiting your target :)
For voip applications which are designed for 1on1 calls this is realy
more common, but not applications like mumble with channels.
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Mit freundlichem Gruß / With kind regards,
Patrick Matthäi
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Comment:
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