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and subject line Re: Bug#590235: Please offer prefilled values for known (free) 
e-mail  providers
has caused the Debian Bug report #590235,
regarding Please offer prefilled values for known (free) e-mail providers
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Package: reportbug
Severity: wishlist
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On Sb, 24 iul 10, 18:03:04, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/24/2010 02:06 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> >And then there is the (nowadays perceived) problem that reportbug needs a
> >working MTA setup or at least outgoing traffic on port 25/587. Both ports are
> >blocked on almost all my machines, so I still have not much bothered with
> >reportbug. (I'd use it for when a maintainer tells me to use it as it will
> >collect some information automatically, but thats it.)
> >
> 
> For at least a couple of years, reportbug has been able to send mail
> via the user's ISP's smtp server, just like he sends "regular"
> email.
> 
> I'd bet that, given the correct ~/.reportbugrc options, you can also
> use smtp.google.com.

Of course you can, but it still is much more convenient to use 
reportbug.debian.org instead. Maybe reportbug could offer preconfigured 
settings in case the user has an e-mail address from one of the known 
providers that allow SMTP? Example text:

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Do you want to use <provider>'s SMTP server for sending reports? Y/n

The known SMTP server for <provider> is <smtp-server>. Press Enter if 
this is the correct server (or you don't know), otherwise please specify 
the correct server.

Please enter the password for your <provider> account. The password will 
be stored in the ~/.reportbugrc file. If you don't want that just press 
Enter and reportbug will ask for the password every time you want to 
send a report:

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Andrei
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tags 590235 wontfix
thanks

Hello Andrei,

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 09:36, Andrei Popescu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Package: reportbug
> Severity: wishlist
> X-Debbugs-CC: [email protected]
>
> On Sb, 24 iul 10, 18:03:04, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 07/24/2010 02:06 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >
>> >And then there is the (nowadays perceived) problem that reportbug needs a
>> >working MTA setup or at least outgoing traffic on port 25/587. Both ports 
>> >are
>> >blocked on almost all my machines, so I still have not much bothered with
>> >reportbug. (I'd use it for when a maintainer tells me to use it as it will
>> >collect some information automatically, but thats it.)
>> >
>>
>> For at least a couple of years, reportbug has been able to send mail
>> via the user's ISP's smtp server, just like he sends "regular"
>> email.
>>
>> I'd bet that, given the correct ~/.reportbugrc options, you can also
>> use smtp.google.com.
>
> Of course you can, but it still is much more convenient to use
> reportbug.debian.org instead. Maybe reportbug could offer preconfigured
> settings in case the user has an e-mail address from one of the known
> providers that allow SMTP? Example text:
>
> ---
>
> Do you want to use <provider>'s SMTP server for sending reports? Y/n
>
> The known SMTP server for <provider> is <smtp-server>. Press Enter if
> this is the correct server (or you don't know), otherwise please specify
> the correct server.
>
> Please enter the password for your <provider> account. The password will
> be stored in the ~/.reportbugrc file. If you don't want that just press
> Enter and reportbug will ask for the password every time you want to
> send a report:

sorry, but I won't go to maintain a list of <domain, mta> pairs that
will have high chances (if not pratically sure) to become outdated
during a stable release life-time, always partial, and several other
problems.

It's users responsibility to configure the software they use, and if
they don't know what value to put in smtp host, just stick with the
default (that should just work). and we also provide documentation on
how to do that (f.e. for gmail configuration), check
/usr/share/doc/reportbug/ .

That said, I'm closing this bug report as a wontfix.

Regards,
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