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Package: gnome
Severity: normal
at work the other day a couple windows-locked coworkers of mine were
attempting to use a fedora system. they were attempting to figure out
if a particular application was available on the system. they had no
idea where to go to do a file search (they expected it to be in the
start menu, but gave up after they found it wasn't under applications).
so then they tried nautilus, but couldn't figure out where to go. they
dropped down to / where they were even more dumbfounded. a comment was
"what are all these directories and how am i supposed to find anything
in this mess." i suggested looking in /usr/local and /opt but both came
up empty.
i suggested that they try the search under the gnome places menu, at
which point they were able to find some similarity to their expectations.
at first they used the defaults and only searched in their home directory
(inadvertently assuming that the file must not be on the disk even
though their search path was too limited), at which point i said you should
search from the / directory. they opened the gnome file selector, and could
not figure out how to pick / (in fact they didn't understand the concept of /,
or how it relates to something like c:). i also didn't know how to
select / directly from the gnome file selector this, but eventually
figured out if you select the topmost directory breakout at the top of the
file selector that you will get / as your selection. this is very
non-obvious and needs to be fixed. so they tried their search, which
completed *way* too fast for their expectations (likely because they are
used to windows searches taking significant time to search an entire
disk because file lists are not cached as scrollkeeper does). so i did
a "find / | grep fname" which also came up empty to indicate to them
that indeed the file they were looking for was not on the system.
at one point another comment was "it seems like they do things
differently just to be different," referring to the gnome desktop in
general vs windows.
anyway, hope you can find some useful bits from the mindset virgin gnome
users. need more details? just ask.
mike
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Version: 1:3.0+3
On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 23:55 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> at work the other day a couple windows-locked coworkers of mine were
> attempting to use a fedora system. they were attempting to figure out
> if a particular application was available on the system. they had no
> idea where to go to do a file search (they expected it to be in the
> start menu, but gave up after they found it wasn't under applications).
> so then they tried nautilus, but couldn't figure out where to go.
I think this bug can be closed since
1. gnome-shell nowadays provides a search field for applications
2. nautilus nowadays provides a search button to search for files
Feel free to reopen if necessary!
Best regards
Alexander Kurtz
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