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Subject: xfree86-driver-synaptics: Scrolling should work when TouchpadOff=2
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Package: xfree86-driver-synaptics
Version: 0.14.3-1
Severity: normal

Hi there,

Firstly, thanks for a very handy driver - it's let me use my touchpad in
exactly the way I want for many moons :)

Unfortunately, version 0.14.3 introduced a change that broke my setup.
My settings are:

  Option "TouchpadOff"       "2"
  Option "CircularScrolling" "on"
  Option "VertScrollDelta"   "30"

Reasoning: My ThinkPad has both a stick mouse and a Synaptics touchpad.
I find the touchpad impossible to use as a mouse (just my personal
preference) and hit it a lot when typing, whereas I can use the ThinkPad
stick mouse very easily.  But because there's no physical scroll wheel
built into my ThinkPad, the only way I can scroll is to use the
VertScroll and CircularScrolling of the touchpad.  I set up the regions
of my touchpad so that it's very unlikely that an accidental brush will
be interpreted as mouse movement (which has worked flawlessly so far).
To prevent accidental taps from being interpreted as button presses, I
also set TouchpadOff to 2.  So, in my setup, the touchpad basically acts
*only* as an intelligent scroll wheel only, and this worked great for
me...

...until version 0.14.3 came out, whose changelog states:
  - Also disable scrolling when the TouchpadOff parameter is set to 2.
    It doesn't make any sense to disable tapping but not scrolling as a
    response to keyboard activity.

This change breaks my setup because I can't use the touchpad to scroll
while disabling tapping.

Solutions that present themselves are:

 a) revert this change completely (probably annoying someone else who
    prefers the opposite behaviour), or

 b) leave scrolling enabled with TouchpadOff=2 - *unless* syndaemon is
    involved, in which case disable both scroll and tap when typing, or

 c) invent a "TouchpadOff=4" setting for people who want scrolling to
    work but tapping to be ignored?

Thanks in advance,

Zak (Isaac Wilcox)

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:22:11PM +0200, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 04:55:15PM +0200, Peter Osterlund wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> [...]
> > > > This change breaks my setup because I can't use the touchpad to scroll
> > > > while disabling tapping.
> > 
> > What about these settings?
> > 
> > * MaxSpeed=0 to disable mouse movements regardless of keyboard activity.
> > * TapButton1=0 to disable tapping.
> > * [LR][TB]CornerButton=0 to disable corner tapping.
> > 
> > It appears to me that those settings would make the driver do what you
> > want without using syndaemon at all. Or did I miss anything?
> 
> Ah, yes. This seems to mimic the old TouchpadOff=2 behaviour. Anyway
> playing with above settings should do what the bug opener asked.

If the above doesn't fix your issue feel free to reopen the bug.

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mattia
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