Your message dated Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:18:51 +0000 with message-id <[email protected]> and subject line Bug#710737: fixed in lynx-cur 2.8.9dev5-1 has caused the Debian Bug report #710737, regarding lynx-cur: cobwebby package description to be marked as done.
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--- Begin Message ---Package: lynx-cur Version: 2.8.8dev.12-2 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch The package description for lynx-cur is about a decade overdue for some routine maintenance. | Description: Text-mode WWW Browser with NLS support (development version) Problems: * There's no NON-development version for this to contrast with. * DevRef recommends not capitalising the synopsis. * There's even less reason for capitalising "Browser"! * Why "WWW browser" rather than "web browser"? * NLS is a (rather dated) abbreviation for National (or Native) Language Support; so why is lynx-cur claiming to have National Language Support support? * In 1999 or so, NLS may have been the main selling point that made lynx-cur superior to its competition; but in 2013, the competing version no longer exists, and lacking NLS would be enough to make a package RC-buggy. Leading with a feature this antique is like labelling it as "largely Y2K compliant". | Lynx is a fully-featured World Wide Web (WWW) client for users running | cursor-addressable, character-cell display devices. * Calling Lynx a full(y)-featured browser was justifiable in the mid-nineties, but it lacks support even for HTML 3.2 features like table layouts. * Readers in 2013 don't need to be told that WWW stands for World Wide Web. * Long-winded: don't say it's for users running devices with these kinds of display, just say it's for these kinds of display. Judging by the man page, all the highly generalised technical stuff about "cursor-addressable, character-cell display devices" seems to have originally been phrased this way to lead into a mention of the possibility of running Lynx in "vt100 emulators running on Windows 95/NT or Macintoshes". This is obviously cobwebby, and irrelevant to Debian users, who only need to know that it's "non-graphical". | It is very fast and easy to use. It will display HTML documents | containing links to files residing on the local system, * It may be very fast when compared to MS-IE, but according to the comparisons I've seen it's more memory-hungry than rivals like W3M and Links (though I suppose we could read it as "fast to use", referring to the way it saves time by never bothering to download stylesheets and banner-ads and JavaScript and so on). * "Easy to use" is arguable, too - there must be a lot of users out there who will spend thirty seconds mouse-clicking on it and then uninstall it in frustration. * You don't mean that it will display pages containing local links; you mean that it will follow local links. But are there any browsers that won't follow local links? Why put such an underwhelming feature so near the top of the list? | as well as files residing on remote systems running Gopher, HTTP, FTP, | WAIS, and NNTP servers. * Didn't WAIS support depend on a gateway that vanished ages ago? Or is the Debian version compiled with --enable-wais? See: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1998-01/msg00076.html Is there even any way of testing this now that all the WAIS servers are resting in peace? * The user guide says it also supports telnet! But probably we shouldn't encourage anybody to try that. * What order are these in? They could at least be alphabetical. * Why not just append the file:// protocol to this list? | . | This package contains a development version of lynx. * This paragraph was originally intended to alert users to the fact that a release-branch version was also available in Debian, and that's not true any longer, so now it's just confusing. * Given that this label ends up attached to the lynx-cur in Oldstable (which isn't the version under active upstream development), it would be more accurate to say that it's a version from the upstream development branch of Lynx. * Since we know that in practice the -cur branch is unfailingly good enough to get into every Debian Stable release, the fact upstream don't officially label it as a release candidate is of no real significance to end users. * * * The question this description should be answering is "why should I install this text-mode web browser instead of its competitors?", and that's rather a hard one. But Wikipedia points out that Lynx is the oldest web browser currently in general use and development; and it's often used as a sort of default lowest-common-denominator browser for portability testing. So maybe: Description: classic non-graphical web browser In continuous development since 1992, Lynx sets the standard for text-mode web clients. It is fast and simple to use, with support for browsing via FTP, Gopher, HTTP, HTTPS, NNTP, and the local file system. -- System Information: Debian Release: jessie/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 3.8-2-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages lynx-cur depends on: ii libbsd0 0.4.2-1 ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.6-4 ii libc6 2.17-3 ii libgcrypt11 1.5.0-5 ii libgnutls26 2.12.20-6 ii libidn11 1.25-2 ii libncursesw5 5.9+20130504-1 ii libtinfo5 5.9+20130504-1 ii zlib1g 1:1.2.8.dfsg-1 Versions of packages lynx-cur recommends: ii mime-support 3.54 lynx-cur suggests no packages. -- debconf information excluded -- JBR with qualifications in linguistics, experience as a Debian sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular packagediff -ru lynx-cur-2.8.8dev.15.pristine/debian/control lynx-cur-2.8.8dev.15/debian/control --- lynx-cur-2.8.8dev.15.pristine/debian/control 2013-06-01 23:41:14.000000000 +0100 +++ lynx-cur-2.8.8dev.15/debian/control 2013-06-01 23:43:42.544035956 +0100 @@ -13,15 +13,10 @@ Provides: www-browser, news-reader Conflicts: lynx (<< 2.8.7dev9-1.1), lynx-ssl, lynx-cur-wrapper (<< 2.8.8dev.8-2) Recommends: mime-support -Description: Text-mode WWW Browser with NLS support (development version) - Lynx is a fully-featured World Wide Web (WWW) client for users running - cursor-addressable, character-cell display devices. - It is very fast and easy to use. It will display HTML documents - containing links to files residing on the local system, - as well as files residing on remote systems running Gopher, HTTP, FTP, - WAIS, and NNTP servers. - . - This package contains a development version of lynx. +Description: classic non-graphical web browser + In continuous development since 1992, Lynx sets the standard for + text-mode web clients. It is fast and simple to use, with support for + browsing via FTP, Gopher, HTTP, HTTPS, NNTP, and the local file system. Package: lynx-cur-wrapper Section: oldlibs
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--- Begin Message ---Source: lynx-cur Source-Version: 2.8.9dev5-1 We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of lynx-cur, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to [email protected], and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Andreas Metzler <[email protected]> (supplier of updated lynx-cur package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing [email protected]) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:36:20 +0200 Source: lynx-cur Binary: lynx-cur lynx Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.8.9dev5-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Lynx Packaging Team <[email protected]> Changed-By: Andreas Metzler <[email protected]> Description: lynx - Text-mode WWW Browser (transitional package) lynx-cur - classic non-graphical (text-mode) web browser Closes: 429606 484250 699068 710737 Changes: lynx-cur (2.8.9dev5-1) experimental; urgency=medium . * Use improved package description by Justin B Rye (with minor changes). Closes: #710737 * New upstream version. + Removes limit of 4 digits for page jumps on ix86. Closes: #699068 + Loosen the check in IsOurFile() to permit hard-linked files. Closes: #429606 + Translation updates include corrected description of keybinding. Closes: #484250 Checksums-Sha1: f9c25a3e93174a49edbcc59bdb0bae4ce6856833 2234 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1.dsc f1118d43e381771889d7f6bfac320263ead951ea 2582704 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5.orig.tar.bz2 7560b4e4708544be094960b3930ecc389b1b9941 25524 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1.debian.tar.xz 0edb702917ab37f44690e39a5d5992f6c1fc69c7 1687736 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1_i386.deb 60eefc43ff85100cc6b5b16012501e73bf4cf1ba 235324 lynx_2.8.9dev5-1_all.deb Checksums-Sha256: 0889780b01734589a8bb3673d862b886d0cf43e1cc635420a3aba824c3c2cc15 2234 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1.dsc 8a9af4c5ea1f2d5ca82a47a5936b8cbd9a59fc3450da0d30d14d6c58c59b9e69 2582704 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5.orig.tar.bz2 40bacda32269f8640ddab959b5c8f710b053d4eda28325b1ea104a34787a73e2 25524 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1.debian.tar.xz 8ef73b4a62e9716ddcbe76d6e50ea23b28b4946b5ef5bcddf948e81783f92567 1687736 lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1_i386.deb c9cdbef3f9f02d8051dc5908574dbb5963e015d996058e147ba630d37bb0d3b4 235324 lynx_2.8.9dev5-1_all.deb Files: 4399c7f223681dd23038cd593c87019f 2234 web extra lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1.dsc 2c24a391150273f23ff1211f976ea39f 2582704 web extra lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5.orig.tar.bz2 c86e75e10dd831ce6922e53e6c653fba 25524 web extra lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1.debian.tar.xz 6b7f29fa67bc132c938b5153decc8b13 1687736 web extra lynx-cur_2.8.9dev5-1_i386.deb f9858ea53d8c4f6c9ada968dd925535e 235324 oldlibs extra lynx_2.8.9dev5-1_all.deb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVLABOAAoJEKVPAYVDghSE7BoQAIR97e1x8SJfdhF/AmFNpF29 rphimdqYTnMdGQP04WXM/+cbbfwy4o9qO/l/6Kp4ZOtz8ADMMZBTHV5GHbOUuC/L eWrRxKaXyjpmypmfurKcomHjlFE9Q5lvof8SQQR3MbYjt/BJcpfPz0QitUzv4/VR A2dwOMe4/zXheN87SMdF8BvsiuhRS+JJ5q3f8sCfqj2udQpujbnmIUF+6RNWP7Pt ZADu5CSxR4t8L56isnE0I6wQIhTfv46vE9omUVdDCuy35w1vBlhuMqh/Jv9V3TVV RMvWtHRvdpqtka/cDEHM84W9kNbOYDuUUsCbUGlaMSYazaoq/3Sp5pw3edUCRLNn 9Y++3APr14atIkhAyjMJLGi5SQFT3C78kp9J4kMTMpzx5x35fooUrqg+j3n8+23v 8Q5aFSPUevIyRcX8t4ebY3y4emciIum7Fucj4xj0kzfc2ccRU8+1sFqBtslX9OOI SDT02eTWn3udFt0O/8OuR5u3jIkTKiL3Ze0KrigbUNgGB3tvlFKEnim2Av4XZ+Bb WhIToI7MGAqV+tBacCY90z/fYMucwKiWu/SOJjuoqRmTRwZ4mYeRnoTDVeWw4W4q B7QNBcetayVPZH4HFZduU9I40Np2PEN7FLWFuNIIsZviPOGP3G16bsvke7QT71GU Xf0RhUvqKVXkT4OKw13E =o0OR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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