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Package: gnome-control-center
Version: gnome-control-center dependecy breaks
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

Given: libcheese-gtk25, libcheese8 vs. libcheese-gtk23, libcheese7 connundrum.

Why in the hell is this crap continuing to happen? You roll out 
gnome-control-center with hard dependency on obsolete libcheese and 
libcheese-gtk packages.

Then you roll out the cheese 3.18.1 to match gnome-control-center 3.18.1 but 
instead of re-rolling a second build to update the proper dependencies you have 
your debian-buildd channel with different dependencies leaving a broken staged 
solution.

Roll cheese out first and then gnome-control-center, then roll them both out to 
incoming.debian.org.

On top of all that you have a dozen other packages that will de-install due to 
their 3.18.1 dependencies on libcheese7. Get the stuff synced with dependencies 
before you make them public.

This isn't tensor calculus. It's straight forward. Stage them non-publically, 
then roll them out as test builds to test. Not much to test when installation 
breaks, repeatedly. Gimping ourselves to a full GNOME 3.18.1 isn't 
professional, whether one pays a support contract or gets it free. It just 
pisses people off to switch distributions. The old excuse you don't pay for it 
don't fly anymore. Enough corporate sponsors have been subsidizing Linux and 
its community to the tune of billions over the past two decades. I've used 
Debian for 15 years to compliment OS X. These major Desktop Environment 
releases are getting worse, not better. The KDE 4 to 5 is just as bad. But this 
GCC 5 crap takes the cake. So not looking forward to Perl and LibPNG.


Marc J. Driftmeyer




-- System Information:
Debian Release: stretch/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.2.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages gnome-control-center depends on:
ii  accountsservice            0.6.40-3
ii  apg                        2.2.3.dfsg.1-2
ii  colord                     1.2.11-1
ii  desktop-file-utils         0.22-1
ii  gnome-control-center-data  1:3.18.1-1
ii  gnome-desktop3-data        3.18.1-1
ii  gnome-icon-theme           3.12.0-1
ii  gnome-icon-theme-symbolic  3.12.0-1
ii  gnome-settings-daemon      3.18.1-1
ii  gsettings-desktop-schemas  3.18.0-1
ii  libaccountsservice0        0.6.40-3
ii  libatk1.0-0                2.18.0-1
ii  libc6                      2.21-0experimental1
ii  libcairo-gobject2          1.14.2-2
ii  libcairo2                  1.14.2-2
ii  libcanberra-gtk3-0         0.30-2.1
ii  libcanberra0               0.30-2.1
pn  libcheese-gtk23            <none>
pn  libcheese7                 <none>
ii  libclutter-1.0-0           1.24.2-1
ii  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0       1.6.6-1
ii  libcolord-gtk1             0.1.25-1.1+b1
ii  libcolord2                 1.2.11-1
ii  libcups2                   2.1.0-4
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2           0.104-1
ii  libfontconfig1             2.11.0-6.3
ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0         2.32.1-1
ii  libgl1-mesa-glx [libgl1]   11.0.2-1
ii  libglib2.0-0               2.46.0-2
ii  libgnome-bluetooth13       3.18.0-1
ii  libgnome-desktop-3-10      3.16.2-2
ii  libgoa-1.0-0b              3.18.0-1
ii  libgoa-backend-1.0-1       3.18.0-1
ii  libgrilo-0.2-1             0.2.14-1
ii  libgtk-3-0                 3.18.2-1
ii  libgtop-2.0-10             2.32.0-1
ii  libgudev-1.0-0             230-2
ii  libibus-1.0-5              1.5.10-1
ii  libkrb5-3                  1.13.2+dfsg-2
ii  libmm-glib0                1.4.12-1
ii  libnm-glib-vpn1            1.0.6-1
ii  libnm-glib4                1.0.6-1
ii  libnm-gtk0                 1.0.6-2
ii  libnm-util2                1.0.6-1
ii  libpango-1.0-0             1.38.0-3
ii  libpangocairo-1.0-0        1.38.0-3
ii  libpolkit-gobject-1-0      0.113-1
ii  libpulse-mainloop-glib0    7.0-1
ii  libpulse0                  7.0-1
ii  libpwquality1              1.2.3-1
ii  libsmbclient               2:4.3.0+dfsg-2
ii  libsoup2.4-1               2.52.1-1
ii  libupower-glib3            0.99.3-1+b2
ii  libwacom2                  0.15-1
ii  libx11-6                   2:1.6.3-1
ii  libxi6                     2:1.7.5-1
ii  libxml2                    2.9.2+zdfsg1-4

Versions of packages gnome-control-center recommends:
ii  cracklib-runtime       2.9.2-1+b1
ii  cups-pk-helper         0.2.5-2+b1
ii  gkbd-capplet           3.6.0-1
ii  gnome-online-accounts  3.18.0-1
ii  gnome-user-guide       3.18.1-1
ii  gnome-user-share       3.18.0-1
ii  iso-codes              3.62-1
ii  libnss-myhostname      227-2
ii  mesa-utils             8.2.0-1
ii  mousetweaks            3.12.0-1
ii  network-manager-gnome  1.0.6-2
ii  policykit-1-gnome      0.105-2
ii  realmd                 0.16.2-1
ii  rygel                  0.28.0-2
ii  rygel-tracker          0.28.0-2
ii  system-config-printer  1.5.7-1

Versions of packages gnome-control-center suggests:
ii  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio  1.6.0-1
ii  libcanberra-gtk-module   0.30-2.1
ii  libcanberra-gtk3-module  0.30-2.1
ii  x11-xserver-utils        7.7+5

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Am 15.10.2015 um 02:16 schrieb Marc J. Driftmeyer:
> Package: gnome-control-center
> Version: gnome-control-center dependecy breaks
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> Given: libcheese-gtk25, libcheese8 vs. libcheese-gtk23, libcheese7 connundrum.
> 
> Why in the hell is this crap continuing to happen? You roll out 
> gnome-control-center with hard dependency on obsolete libcheese and 
> libcheese-gtk packages.
> 
> Then you roll out the cheese 3.18.1 to match gnome-control-center 3.18.1 but 
> instead of re-rolling a second build to update the proper dependencies you 
> have your debian-buildd channel with different dependencies leaving a broken 
> staged solution.
> 
> Roll cheese out first and then gnome-control-center, then roll them both out 
> to incoming.debian.org.
> 
> On top of all that you have a dozen other packages that will de-install due 
> to their 3.18.1 dependencies on libcheese7. Get the stuff synced with 
> dependencies before you make them public.
> 
> This isn't tensor calculus. It's straight forward. Stage them non-publically, 
> then roll them out as test builds to test. Not much to test when installation 
> breaks, repeatedly. Gimping ourselves to a full GNOME 3.18.1 isn't 
> professional, whether one pays a support contract or gets it free. It just 
> pisses people off to switch distributions. The old excuse you don't pay for 
> it don't fly anymore. Enough corporate sponsors have been subsidizing Linux 
> and its community to the tune of billions over the past two decades. I've 
> used Debian for 15 years to compliment OS X. These major Desktop Environment 
> releases are getting worse, not better. The KDE 4 to 5 is just as bad. But 
> this GCC 5 crap takes the cake. So not looking forward to Perl and LibPNG.

This is not a bug report, bug a rant.
If you can't want until all packages have been rebuilt, sid, is the
wrong distribution for you.

Please don't continue filing such useless bug report.

Closing.

Michael


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