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Package: network-manager
Severity: wishlist

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 06:46:24AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > It’s gnome-software in sid, or g-s-d in jessie, querying PackageKit for
> > updates.
> > The default policy is to not schedule any downloads when running on
> > battery or on a modem connection.
> 
> Which is not enough IMO. (W)LAN connections cannot be expected to not
> carry a penalty for download volume. Just think about the now standard
> way of going on-line while traveling, making your cell play access
> point. And at least in my area of the world no flat rate is really flat,
> at least it will be slowed down to crazy low numbers if you reach a
> certain threshold. Even worse, if you're roaming it'll cost a fortune.
 
In that case, the WLAN access point ("FooAP" or so) should be tagged as
"modem", not sure if n-m can do that.  Am trying to file a wishlist
bug for that by BCCing submit@.

But in general I think we want that our users get security updates ASAP,
so the current default looks mostly sane to me.  Maybe somebody knows a
shell on-liner along the line of systemd-inhibit or some d-bus call
which deactivates automatic download for the time being for "power
users" and/or tags a WLAN connection as "modem".


Michael

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 23:21:29 +0100 Michael Banck <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:26:47PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 20.01.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Michael Biebl:
> > > Am 20.01.2016 um 16:05 schrieb Michael Biebl:
> > >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:30:54 +0200 Michael Banck <[email protected]> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> But in general I think we want that our users get security updates ASAP,
> > >>> so the current default looks mostly sane to me.  Maybe somebody knows a
> > >>> shell on-liner along the line of systemd-inhibit or some d-bus call
> > >>> which deactivates automatic download for the time being for "power
> > >>> users" and/or tags a WLAN connection as "modem".
> > >>
> > >> It's not quite clear to me, what you want from NM in this bug report.
> > >> How should NM know which WLAN connection to tag as metered?
> > 
> > Coming back to this point, I wanted to retitle the bug report, but I
> > failed because I wasn't sure what specifically you want to see
> > implemented/fixed in NM.
> 
> IIRC I proposed that there should be a GUI way to designate a WLAN
> connection as metered. You mentioned in one of your replies that there's
> a CLI way of doing it, though that is pretty difficult to discover.
> 
> Then again, it's been half a year and I don't remember exactly what the
> discussion was about (it was on debian-devel I believe).

Ok, this is an issue of the individual frontends then, not NM itself.
Feel free to file bugs for nm-applet, gnome-control-center etc. Ideally
upstream.

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