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regarding strong vote against deleting cluster on package purge
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Package: postgresql
Version: 9.6+181+deb9u2

I am creating this bugreport because of a mishap that now has happened
twice to me and I think it does not actually have to happen and maybe
the behavior of the package should be changed.

1) At home I once tried a document management system for my private
home paper work. It worked great until I did a debian upgrade of the
server. Everything worked fine and I also --purge all removed
packages. Then all of sudden the database was gone. After noticing that
I should not have --purge the old version of postgresql I found out
that I had no backups. Since then I work with paper again. Of course it
is my fault, but ...

2) Yesterday at work I did a massive upgrade of all kinds of virtual
machines at the same time. A lot of different services like mail,
fileserver, etc. So again I ran into the pitfall that purging old
packages deletes my postgresql cluster. Of course I have backups but
the work of one day is lost and all employees are very happy of course.
Yes I know it is my fault, but ...


Here are the arguments I have against cleaning up the actual cluster
files when --purge postgresql

a) Compare postgresql to samba or nfs-kernel-server. When purging these
packages, the files on the filesystem which the server was serving will
certainly not be removed. But on postgresql they are.

b) What is worse? Having files not owned by a corresponding package
in /var/lib/postgresql or losing a complete database on system upgrade?

c) Compare this to for example ruby gems. When doing gem install xxx as
root, you will get files in /var/lib/gems/version/... Now when
upgrading the system you will get a new ruby version and when
installing gems, a new version directory will be built. The old one
just stays there and nobody ever deletes it. Especially not the old
ruby packages when you --purge them.



I am sure I am not the only one who fell in this --purge trap. To say
it again, of course it is my own fault, but still I think that the
package should not delete the cluster on --purge. Please rethink that
decision.



Thanks
Erik

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On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 3:15 PM Tobias Rupf wrote:
> Sorry for the report I found the issue - is is the extension "Passman". I 
> couldn't remove it easily due to the slow browser action but than I just 
> deleted the user profile and the issue was gone. Installing the extensions 
> one by led me to the above mentioned one.

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