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Upload phosh to bookworm-backports ?
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Package: phosh
Version: 0.32.0-1
Severity: wishlist

I think it'd be a good idea to provide new versions of phosh (with phoc, wlroots, feedbackd) via bookworm-backports. I was earlier daily driving mobian trixie on my Librem 5 but since its automatic suspend broke I could not continue using it [1]. So I'm using mobian bookworm but I miss the newer phosh (especially easy access to suspend button, which I use often for power saving).

I have built the debs already and started using it from yesterday. I have shared the debs in my personal repo [2]. I'd like to upload and help maintain it in bookworm-backports if you are okay with the idea of providing official backports.

Since pureos crimson is not yet useable, I think this would be useful for many who want a newer base OS.

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/librem5-support/-/issues/7
[2] https://people.debian.org/~praveen/mobian/

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Hi,
On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 12:09:23AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 14 2023 at 18:26:58 +02:00:00, Guido Günther <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 09:13:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen via
> > Debian-on-mobile-maintainers wrote:
> > >  On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 23:56:54 +0200 Arnaud Ferraris
> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > >  wrote:
> > >  > Hi,
> > >  >
> > >  > Le 10/10/2023 à 11:03, Pirate Praveen via
> > > Debian-on-mobile-maintainers a
> > >  > écrit :
> > >  > > Package: phosh
> > >  > > Version: 0.32.0-1
> > >  > > Severity: wishlist
> > >  > >
> > >  > > I think it'd be a good idea to provide new versions of phosh
> > > (with phoc,
> > >  > > wlroots, feedbackd) via bookworm-backports. I was earlier daily
> > > driving
> > >  > > mobian trixie on my Librem 5 but since its automatic suspend
> > > broke I
> > >  > > could not continue using it [1]. So I'm using mobian bookworm
> > > but I miss
> > >  > > the newer phosh (especially easy access to suspend button,
> > > which I use
> > >  > > often for power saving).
> > >  >
> > >  > As discussed in the Mobian issue you mention, the auto-suspend
> > > problem
> > >  > you're experiencing is only happening with recent versions of
> > > phosh,
> > >  > which basically reset the idle counter when a critical
> > > notification
> > >  happens.
> > >  >
> > >  > Providing a backported version of phosh wouldn't help there, and
> > > the
> > >  > solution should be provided by upstream gnome-settings-daemon[1].
> > > In the
> > >  > meantime, you can work around this issue by executing, for
> > > example:
> > >  >
> > >  >    gsettings set sm.puri.phosh.notifications
> > > wakeup-screen-triggers '[]'
> > > 
> > >  Thanks this fixes the auto suspend, though one motivation for
> > > getting newer
> > >  phosh was its suspend inhibition when wifi tethering is active,
> > > which is
> > >  also disabled with this setting. But I can live with that until
> > 
> > Suspend when wifi hotspot is active is *not* related to any
> > wakup-screen-triggers. The phosh in stable/bookworm simply doesn't take
> > an inhibitor when the hotspot is active (this was added in 0.26.0).
> > 
> 
> I am using phosh 0.32 which I rebuilt on bookworm. So this added that
> feature but the other bug of never suspending made it unusable.

Sorry but I don't think there's much point in uploading updated phosh to
stable-backports if we can't even agree on which bug is fixed in which
version of which component hence closing this issue. If we'd want to have
improved support in stable we'd need to carefully consider use cases and
defaults for different devices and device types as we go along and I don't
see that happening here. What you deem "unusable" not be true for
others.

To summarize the state of the above (wifi hotspot inhibit and screen
wakeup on notifications) in bookworm and trixie:

- phosh in bookworm 0.24.0 does not take suspend inhibitors for wifi hotsposts 
and
  doesn't wake up the screen on notifications

- phosh 0.32.0 (currently in trixie) does both. Since unpatched g-s-d
  sends a notification on suspend this can prevent the system from
  suspending as phosh wakes up the screen again due to this.

  This will be fixed via a g-s-d MR at
  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/merge_requests/338
  and is mentioned in the release notes at
  
https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/phosh/-/releases/v0.32.0#patches-that-arent-merged-upstream-yet

  The screen wakup can easily be disabled (basically reverting to the
  behavior of pre 0.28.0) as Arnaud pointed out. This does not change
  anything related to wifi hotspot handling. Disabling this gsetting via
  phosh-mobile-tweaks could have been a viable solution for
  stable-backports as we likely won't fix up g-s-d there.

Cheers,
 -- Guido


> > Cheers,
> >  -- Guido
> > 
> > >  gnome-settings-daemon is fixed. This means I have to remember to
> > > toggle
> > >  suspend when charging each time I turn on or off wifi tethering. I
> > > was using
> > >  a script earlier to launch tethering and inhibit suspend earlier, I
> > > will go
> > >  back to it until this gets fixed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > >  > Cheers,
> > >  > Arnaud
> > >  >
> > >  > [1]
> > >  >
> > > <<https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/merge_requests/338>>
> > >  >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > I have built the debs already and started using it from
> > > yesterday. I
> > >  > > have shared the debs in my personal repo [2]. I'd like to
> > > upload and
> > >  > > help maintain it in bookworm-backports if you are okay with the
> > > idea of
> > >  > > providing official backports.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Since pureos crimson is not yet useable, I think this would be
> > > useful
> > >  > > for many who want a newer base OS.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > [1]
> > > <<https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/librem5-support/-/issues/7>>
> > >  > > [2] <<https://people.debian.org/~praveen/mobian/>>
> > >  > >
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