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Package: mutter-common
Version: 3.38.2-1
Severity: important
Tags: upstream
X-Debbugs-Cc: [email protected]
I have an nVidia GTX 1650 GPU and installed weekly
testing system with GNOME desktop.
* nouveau is basically unusable, it displays the desktop,
but lags heavily and simple tasks, like editing a file
in Vim is impossible, keyboard strokes are missed, or
unwanted symbols appear (multiple letters are added
or several letters are removed after single backspace press).
So I installed nvidia-driver (currently 450.80.02) from non-free.
I had to do it from a TTY, otherwise it was impossible.
After reboot Wayland was still enabled (as default).
Performance was great, but after a moment gnome-shell crashed,
rebooted itself, then, for example gnome-terminal was lagging,
some windows too (not often). This was in the logs just before
the crash:
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
overviewGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor overview
is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
Gjs_ui_overviewControls_ControlsManager is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
overview-group is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
Gjs_ui_overviewControls_ThumbnailsSlider is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
Gjs_ui_workspaceThumbnail_ThumbnailsBox is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
Gjs_ui_workspaceThumbnail_WorkspaceThumbnail is on because it needs an
allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
ClutterActor is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:35 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Can't update stage views actor
Gjs_ui_workspaceThumbnail_WindowClone is on because it needs an allocation.
gru 15 21:33:47 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Window manager warning: MetaSyncRing:
Sync object is not ready -- were events handled properly?
gru 15 21:33:58 wilk /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1322]: (II) event5 -
SteelSeries SteelSeries Sensei 310 eSports Mouse: SYN_DROPPED event - some
input events have been lost.
gru 15 21:33:58 wilk /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1322]: (EE) client bug: timer
event5 debounce: scheduled expiry is in the past (-877ms), your system is too
slow
gru 15 21:33:58 wilk /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1322]: (EE) client bug: timer
event5 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-890ms), your system is
too slow
gru 15 21:34:03 wilk /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1322]: (WW) NVIDIA: Wait for
channel idle timed out.
gru 15 21:34:04 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Window manager warning: Failed to start
restart helper: Wykonanie procesu potomnego (child process failed)
„/usr/libexec/mutter-restart-helper” (Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu) się
nie powio> (no such file or directory)
gru 15 21:34:04 wilk gnome-shell[1438]: Window manager warning:
META_CURRENT_TIME used to choose focus window; focus window may not be correct.
This is not a keyboard/mouse issue. I used both on two other computers without
problems (gnome-shell 3.36) or on Intel integrated GPU. I also connected
a different keyboard to this machine with the same effect.
I switched to Xorg (WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf).
Performance is good, but there are issues unfortunately:
* gnome-terminal is lagging, I have to wait for a cursor to move
sometimes, it can hang even for a second or two.
* I have to wait for a response from simple, usually immediate
programs like htop, sometimes quitting is lagging to,
quittin vim, etc.
* switching between terminal tabs also hangs sometimes for a moment.
* Not all programs are affected, browsers are fine mostly (I had
one issue, but couldn't reproduce).
I checked KDE and as far as I know it is unaffected at all.
I only experience this on GNOME.
I tried xterm instead of gnome-terminal, it seems unaffected.
I wrote this report using reportbug-gtk and I had some problems
with lags (waiting seconds for Enter to kick in, etc.), same in gnome-terminal.
Scrolling sometimes hangs too.
libinput messages about compositor being slow are appearing in logs.
Similar problems were reported on GNOME's Gitlab, it looks
like only some programs are affected.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1561
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1516
Someone in those issues pinpointed this behaviour to mutter,
that is why I'm reporting this as a mutter issue (I also
consulted #debian IRC before submitting here).
This issue basically makes terminal annoying to use, and
sometimes unusable. Stuttering and hanging is a no go
for a programmer or a system administrator (like me),
who depends on terminal (I use gnome-shell).
I'm happy to help more, but I could use some help on how
to debug more. I did some things mentioned in those Gitlab
issues (DEBUG mutter, etc.) and check logs, etc., but the
only relevant information that appear in logs is related
to libinput and system/compositor being slow.
Dec 15 22:58:25 wilk /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1323]: (EE) event2 - Logitech
G513 Carbon Tactile: client bug: event processing lagging behind by 20ms, your
system is too slow
Dec 15 22:59:33 wilk /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1323]: (EE) event2 - Logitech
G513 Carbon Tactile: client bug: event processing lagging behind by 38ms, your
system is too slow
My other system information:
* Linux wilk 5.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.9.11-1 (2020-11-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux
* GNOME Shell 3.38.2
* NVIDIA Driver Version: 450.80.02
* X.Org X Server 1.20.10
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 4.19.0-12-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux wilk 5.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.9.11-1
(2020-11-27) x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.9.0-4-amd64
root=UUID=e5e998e7-9b31-4de8-8bce-e516b41bf84c ro quiet
* Ryzen 3100, B550M chipset motherboard, nVidia GTX 1650 GPU, 32 GB RAM)
-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 5.9.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE,
TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=pl_PL.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled
Versions of packages mutter-common depends on:
ii dconf-gsettings-backend [gsettings-backend] 0.38.0-1
mutter-common recommends no packages.
mutter-common suggests no packages.
-- no debconf information
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--- Begin Message ---
There have been many changes to Debian since this bug was originally
reported. If you are still experiencing this issue with Debian 13 (or
with Debian 12 or Testing or Unstable), please report a new bug.
Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha
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