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Package: alsa-utils
Version: 1.0.16-2
Severity: important
Tags: squeeze sid

As Joey Hess argued in:
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=476728

udev breaks my system, please drop the dependancy on it.

It seems the issue started with
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=53452
 (no explanation to why alsa-utils should depend is given)

wich seems to give rise to:

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=539983

Loocking through the source I find no mention on udev except
in the debian directory.

I understand that *if* udev is installed, then you want alsa-utils
init script to be run somewhere after udev's. But if not, then
it is sufficient if it is run after modutils. Is there not another
way to express that than with:

 # Required-Start:    $remote_fs udev

?

I think it should be sufficient and safe to run alsa-utils init script
after mountall, but some might think that that is too conservative.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0
  APT prefers oldstable
  APT policy: (500, 'oldstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.31.12-rt21-k7.1 (PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

...

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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--- Begin Message --- The explicit dependency was removed a while ago, making this bug report obsolete.

That doesn't mean though that udev is really optional.
On a recent Debian system you will need to have a functioning udev to get full hardware support.

Michael

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:00:45 +0100 (CET) [email protected] (Karl Hammar) wrote:
Package: alsa-utils
Version: 1.0.16-2
Severity: important
Tags: squeeze sid

As Joey Hess argued in:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=476728

udev breaks my system, please drop the dependancy on it.

It seems the issue started with
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=53452
 (no explanation to why alsa-utils should depend is given)

wich seems to give rise to:

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=539983

Loocking through the source I find no mention on udev except
in the debian directory.

I understand that *if* udev is installed, then you want alsa-utils
init script to be run somewhere after udev's. But if not, then
it is sufficient if it is run after modutils. Is there not another
way to express that than with:

 # Required-Start:    $remote_fs udev

?

I think it should be sufficient and safe to run alsa-utils init script
after mountall, but some might think that that is too conservative.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0
  APT prefers oldstable
  APT policy: (500, 'oldstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.31.12-rt21-k7.1 (PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

...

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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Aspö Data
Lilla Aspö 148
S-742 94 Östhammar
Sweden
+46 173 140 57




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