Your message dated Thu, 23 Jul 2026 22:44:54 +0200
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and subject line Re: cinnamon-desktop-environment: dependency on noto-font
installs too many fonts, fontlist exploded
has caused the Debian Bug report #1059329,
regarding cinnamon-desktop-environment: dependency on noto-font installs too
many fonts, fontlist exploded.
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Package: cinnamon-desktop-environment
Version: 5.6.0
Severity: whishlist
X-Debbugs-Cc: [email protected]
Dear Maintainer,
to have several desktop environments available on my computer, I installed the
cinnamon desktop environment.
This package has a hard dependency on the noto-font package. Latter package
contains fonts for all unicode languages, and it is thus not a bad idea to have
that installed per-see.
But since there are for every language about 10 to 20 fonts installed, the
fontlist on my computer "exploded".
This is a hussle as font selection should not be cumbersome, but usefull.
Scrolling along a list of hundreds of noto fonts to come to the next usefull
font is clearly not.
When I tried to deinstall the noto-font, the dependency on this package tried
to deinstall also part of the cinnamon desktop.
I could work around it though, by manually selecting all packages that were to
be deinstalled. However must this be?
For me the question is, is the dependency on the noto-font really necessary? Or
is it a nice to have?
Could the noto-font be a recommended package? That would allow easier
deinstallation when wanted.
Another solution could be to separate the noto-font out into a much finer
selection of font packages, such that only those for installed languages are
installed.
I do understand that native speakers of, say, thai, may want the thai part of
the noto-font, but we "westerners" do typically not need that part of this huge
font base.
I hope some thoughts on this will help to make Debian better.
Best regards,
Tjeerd Pinkert
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 12.4
APT prefers stable-updates
APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable-security'), (500,
'stable-debug'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386
Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-16-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE,
TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8),
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled
Versions of packages cinnamon-desktop-environment depends on:
ii atril [pdf-viewer] 1.26.0-2+b1
ii cinnamon-core 5.6.0
ii eog 43.2-1
ii evince [pdf-viewer] 43.1-2+b1
ii fonts-liberation 1:1.07.4-11
pn fonts-noto <none>
ii gnome-calculator 1:43.0.1-2
ii gnome-screenshot 41.0-2
ii gnome-text-editor 43.2-1
ii gv [pdf-viewer] 1:3.7.4-2+b1
ii xdg-user-dirs-gtk 0.11-1
Versions of packages cinnamon-desktop-environment recommends:
ii blueman 2.3.5-2+b1
ii brasero 3.12.3-2
ii bsd-mailx [mail-reader] 8.1.2-0.20220412cvs-1
ii cheese 43.0-1
ii chromium [www-browser] 120.0.6099.129-1~deb12u1
ii cups 2.4.2-3+deb12u5
ii deja-dup 44.0-2
ii evolution [mail-reader] 3.46.4-2
ii firefox-esr [www-browser] 115.6.0esr-1~deb12u1
ii gdebi 0.9.5.7+nmu6
ii gnome-characters 43.1-1+deb12u1
ii gnome-disk-utility 43.0-1
ii gnome-font-viewer 43.0-1
ii gnome-games 1:43+1
ii gnome-logs 43.0-1
ii gnome-software 43.5-1~deb12u1
ii gnome-sound-recorder 43~beta-1
ii gnome-system-monitor 42.0-2
ii gnote 43.1-1
ii gstreamer1.0-libav 1.22.0-2
ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly 1.22.0-2+deb12u1
ii hexchat 2.16.1-1+b3
ii libreoffice-calc 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u1
ii libreoffice-gnome 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u1
ii libreoffice-impress 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u1
ii libreoffice-writer 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u1
ii lynx [www-browser] 2.9.0dev.12-1
ii mate-themes 3.22.23-1
ii mpv 0.35.1-4
ii orca 43.1-1
ii pidgin 2.14.12-1
ii remmina 1.4.29+dfsg-1
ii rhythmbox 3.4.6-2+b1
ii rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder 3.4.6-2+b1
ii rhythmbox-plugins 3.4.6-2+b1
ii seahorse 43.0-1
ii shotwell 0.30.17-1+b1
ii simple-scan 42.5-2
ii smplayer 22.7.0~ds0-1
ii sound-juicer 3.38.0-2.1
ii sound-theme-freedesktop 0.8-2
ii synaptic 0.91.3
ii system-config-printer 1.5.18-1
ii thunderbird [mail-reader] 1:115.6.0-1~deb12u1
ii totem 43.0-2
ii transmission-gtk 3.00-2.1+deb12u1
pn vino | x2goserver <none>
ii vlc 3.0.20-0+deb12u1
ii yelp 42.2-1
ii zenity 3.44.0-1
Versions of packages cinnamon-desktop-environment suggests:
pn gedit-plugins <none>
ii gimp 2.10.34-1+deb12u2
ii inkscape 1.2.2-2+b1
ii low-memory-monitor 2.1-1
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Version: 6.0.1
Hello,
both issues are fixed: fonts-noto was moved from Depends to Recommends
in 5.8.0,
and replaced by the lighter fonts-noto-core in 6.0.1 (no more CJK/extra
sets).
The fonts can now be removed without touching Cinnamon and the font list
is no
longer flooded.
Closing as resolved, thanks for the report.
Regards,
Fabio Fantoni
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