Your message dated Sat, 25 Jul 2026 08:48:57 +0000
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and subject line Bug#1142730: fixed in plasma-workspace 4:6.7.2-5
has caused the Debian Bug report #1142730,
regarding dh_installsystemduser: Debhelper 14 and restart all user services
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Package: debhelper
Version: 14.3
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: [email protected]
Control: affects -1 plasma-workspace
Control: block 1142512 by -1
Hey,
ISSUE
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We switched to Debhelper 14 we end up that plasma-workspace breaks for
several users (#1142512). The reason is that Debhleper 14 automatically
restarts user sservices. After investigating the issue we end up, that
it is a unhappy combination of dh_installsystemduser stanzas. And only
users running a X11 session while trigger the update are affected.
Three services have a [ install ] - section in their service file so
dh_installsystemduser enables those services. So far so good, that was
the default for Debhelper 13, too and never triggered an issue.
plasma-kcminit.service
plasma-ksmserver.service
plasma-plasmashell.service
With Debhelper 14 the automatic restart of all user services was added
(if they are running or enabled).
So because those three services are enabled in the first step, the
service restart behaviour now starts those services. In the end you get
a plasmashell on top of XFCE, not that expacted ;) Additionally for
users running a KDE Plasma on X11 will break their session. A restart on
wayland don't break anything, but never the less those three services
get started.
Maybe a unrelated issue I see is that the grep for a install section is too
simple to trigger enable of a service. At least plasma-kcminit.service
only has an alias in the install - section. From my understanding this
alias does not need any file or symlink to be created, to be useful, so
a enable stanza should not been added for this service.
THOUGHTS
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At least the start of unstarted services should not happen, if the target,
they are part of, is not started.
For me it looks unsafe to just restart any user service while upgrading
without asking the admin (who execute the upgrade).
At least on KDE Plasma uses a lot user services and restarting them may
break the Desktop, as seen here. Restarting gpg or wireplumber service
without consent is also not a good idea, as it breaks a working user.
Wouldn't be the proper solution in extending the "service restart dpkg
trigger" to care also about user services? This helper already knows
about outdated user services, that needs a restart.
Regards,
hefee
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Source: plasma-workspace
Source-Version: 4:6.7.2-5
Done: Aurélien COUDERC <[email protected]>
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
plasma-workspace, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to [email protected],
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.
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Aurélien COUDERC <[email protected]> (supplier of updated plasma-workspace
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2026 10:24:31 +0200
Source: plasma-workspace
Architecture: source
Version: 4:6.7.2-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <[email protected]>
Changed-By: Aurélien COUDERC <[email protected]>
Closes: 1142730
Changes:
plasma-workspace (4:6.7.2-5) unstable; urgency=medium
.
[ Aurélien COUDERC ]
* Revert debhelper compatibility bump to 14, it causes unwanted restarts of
user services on upgrade which break various desktops. (Closes: #1142730)
* Manually pass CMAKE_BUILD_RPATH_USE_ORIGIN=ON until debhelper 14
fixes the issue with unwanted user service restarts on upgrade.
* Drop obsolete cmake configuration option PLASMA_X11_DEFAULT_SESSION.
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