Am 2005-01-16 20:22:06, schrieb Mathieu Roy: > Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tapota :
> > $USER are not criminalized, they are protected by DUL-SPAMers > > In the name of protection, we can implement whatever crap (SPF, > Patriot Act, that's criminalization in the name of protection). Today I have gotten more then 3700 SPAMs and 3400 coming directly into my Mailbox. What you like is the legalization of SPAMing I do not like to reconfigure some 100 boxes becaus there is on $USER in the world which like to be SPAMed. The majorit�e of $USER send via ISPs SMTP relay. > > I and many others are realy happy with this setings... > > But if you want, I can bounce the DUL-SPAM to you :-) > > The problem is the fact that we have here a _default_ setting which can > harm legitimate users. I run public mailing list and I had to deal Where are the Legitimate $USER ? I get every day around 3000 Messages in my Mailbox from mailinglists and in the same time I run 28 Mailinglist with around 17.000 Messages and never gotten one Message, which comes directly. > with the case of completely legitimate mails sent to the lists that > were tagged as spam because of these DUL tests. I was made aware of > the problem by the users that got their mails wrongly tagged. I > lowered the score of the DUL tests. These are a very small amout of $USER. And IF you and your Server accept Messages from DUL, you can change it to your needs. > But will Debian endorse the fact that its package by default create > highly previsible false positives, and may be a true nuisance for > people that do not want to rely on ISP smtp (which are not all so > reliable)? Why not relay via ISP ? Problems with Justice, RG or something like this ? > As I said before 1.7 is definitely an high score for such a dumb > test. It is not like this test was positively making a difference, it > is not like it is a must have test. Sorry, but I have seen the Logfiles from murphy and newmurphy... 1.7 is perfect ! IF the scores are set to 0.1, the the mailinglist get more SPAMs as legitimate messages per day. Many SPAMs are in the range between 6 and 8. Seting the score to 0.1 will score messages between 4.3 and 6.3 which is too less. Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/88452356 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
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