Jim -- My intention has always been GPL pure and simple, same as linux.
Not really keen on reading the entire discussion below, am just going to file it; basically my view on the license matches what Linus said in a recent interview. Hope this clarifies things. >>>>> "James" == James R Van Zandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> T. V. Raman - James> James> Another Debian developer noticed that the emacspeak James> sources have several contradictory copyright notices, James> and questions whether it meets the Debian Free James> Software Guidlines. We'd appreciate some James> clarification on two points: James> James> What copyright actually covers emacspeak? James> James> Is modification and distribution of derived works James> permitted? Specifically, does the license meet the James> following two requirements of the DFSG: James> James> Derived Works James> James> The license must allow modifications and derived James> works, and must allow them to be distributed under the James> same terms as the license of the original software. James> James> Integrity of The Author's Source Code James> James> The license may restrict source-code from being James> distributed in modified form only if the license James> allows the distribution of "patch files" with the James> source code for the purpose of modifying the program James> at build time. The license must explicitly permit James> distribution of software built from modified source James> code. The license may require derived works to carry James> a different name or version number from the original James> software. (This is a compromise. The Debian Project James> encourages all authors to not restrict any files, James> source or binary, from being modified.) James> James> The bug report, with a more complete discussion, James> follows. James> James> - Jim Van Zandt James> James> James> ------- Start of forwarded message ------- James> James> To: Debian Bug Tracking System James> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: emacspeak: might be James> non-free MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; James> charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: James> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: James> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:18:57 James> +0100 James> James> Package: emacspeak Version: 17.0-1 Severity: severity James> James> The copyright of emacspeak is confusing, and the James> package is possibly non-free: James> James> debian/copyright claims two contradicting licenses for James> the packages. The first seems to be present in some James> source files: James> James> ,---- | Copyright: | | Source files contain this James> copyright notice: | James> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- James> | ;;{{{ Copyright: | | ;;;Copyright (C) 1995, 1996, James> 1997 T. V. Raman Adobe Systems Incorporated | ;;; James> Copyright (c) 1996 by T. V. Raman | ;;; All Rights James> Reserved. | ;;; | ;;; This file is not part of GNU James> Emacs, but the same permissions apply. | ;;; | ;;; James> GNU Emacs is free software; you can redistribute it James> and/or modify | ;;; it under the terms of the GNU James> General Public License as published by | ;;; the Free James> Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your James> option) | ;;; any later version. | ;;; | [...] `---- James> James> On the other hand, there is a file etc/COPYRIGHT which James> seems to be a copyright file for the whole James> package. The license therein is non-free because it James> does not explicitly allow modifcation: James> James> ,---- | James> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; James> | ;;; Author: T. V. Raman, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | James> ;;;Copyright (C) 1995 -- 2002, T. V. Raman | ;;; All James> Rights Reserved | ;;; Author: T. V. Raman, Digital James> Equipment Corporation. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | ;;; James> Copyright 1994, 1995 by Digital Equipment Corporation, James> Maynard, MA. | ;;; All Rights Reserved | ;;; $Id: James> COPYRIGHT,v 17.0 2002/11/23 01:29:08 raman Exp $ | James> ;;;Permission to use, copy, and distribute this James> software and its documentation | ;;;for any purpose James> and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the James> above | ;;;copyright notice appears in all copies and James> that both that copyright notice | ;;;and this James> permission notice, including the disclaimers below, James> appear in | ;;;supporting documentation, and that the James> name of Adobe and Digital not be | ;;;used in James> advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of James> the software | ;;;without specific, written prior James> permission. | | Digital Equipment Corporation, and James> T.V. Raman | ;;;DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO James> THIS SOFTWARE, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED | ;;;WARRANTIES James> OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL James> Digital | ;;;Equipment Corporation, or T.V. Raman BE James> LIABLE | ;;;FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL James> DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES | ;;;WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM James> LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN | James> ;;;ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS James> ACTION OR ANY ACTION OF | ;;;ANY OTHER KIND James> WHATSOEVER, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE James> USE OR | ;;;PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. | ;;; James> Permission to use, copy, and distribute this software James> and its | ;;; documentation for any purpose and James> without fee is hereby granted, provided | ;;; that the James> above copyright notice appear in all copies and that James> both that | ;;; copyright notice and this permission James> notice appear in supporting | ;;; documentation, and James> that the name of Adobe Systems not be used in | ;;; James> advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of James> the software without | ;;; specific, written prior James> permission. `---- James> James> (this is repeated for Adobe, and the disclaimer once James> more for DEC) James> James> This file is still present in the current upstream James> version. James> James> Additionally, the source contains a lot of sound files James> without specific copyright notice. Some are probably James> just sounds needed to synthesize speech, and may not James> be copyrightable, or be spoken and copyright by James> Mr. Raman. But files like James> James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/bbc-world-service.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/science-in-action-bbc.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-biz.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-si.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-cnn.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-sports.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-es.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-top-stories.ram James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-hn.ram James> James> Do sound like somebody else had a copyright on them. James> James> Minor issues with the copyright file: James> James> ,---- | Emacspeak is written and maintained by James> T. V. Raman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `---- James> James> But does not say who are the copyright holders; from James> the later parts it seems that two companies are James> involved, too. James> James> ,---- | It was downloaded from | James> ftp://ftp.cs.cornell.edu/pub/raman/emacspeak/ `---- James> James> However, the current sources are at James> James> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emacspeak/ James> James> Regards, Frank -- Best Regards, --raman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: TVRaman PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]