On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 02:22:06AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> So you mean --quiet and error exit is good?  I see.  I still worry about
> being too quiet to hide source of the trouble.  Do you think we need

As far as I can see --quiet never hides error conditions. After all
--quiet is not that quiet. It suppresses the "Updating the super
catalog..." and it suppresses warnings about leftover or broken package
catalogs. So whenever the exit code is non-zero there will be some (die)
message.

>   update-catalog --quiet --update-super || update-catalog --update-super
> 
> If --quiet gives good enough indication of error, we do not need this.  I
> have not checked....  Maybe I am too worried with no reason.  If you
> think this is OK, no problem with me.

As laid out above and as can be seen by searching update-catalog for
'$quiet' the --quiet switch never suppresses messages for failures that
result in a non-zero exit. So your proposed solution just prints the
error twice (assuming idempotency) plus some additional messages.

> > What kind of failures are "normal errors"? Which failures would you like
> > not to be loud?
> I have no idea.  That is why I marked FYI.  Maybe non-essential
> variation.

Unless you can answer the questions above, I see little point in
changing the current --quiet behaviour.

So thanks for having a look even though the issue turned out to be a
non-issue thus far. It might well have been one.

Helmut



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