It seems unusual to CC ftpmaster in a bug report, but keeping the CC as this 
is a reply to one that went there.

On Sunday, June 24, 2012 21:36:28, Michael Schmitt wrote:
> Am 24.06.2012 21:51, schrieb Chris Knadle:
> > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 15:54:07, Michael Schmitt wrote:
..
> > I'm  a bit dissappointed by the reply you got back to this suggestion, so
> > I'm adding some thoughts concerning your idea.
> 
> *Many* thanks for taking my mail seriously, which the maintainer
> obviously did not.

You're welcome.

...
> > Because of all these sticky problems, without a clear path to proceed if
> > I were personally in the maintainer's shoes I'd probably take the "do
> > nothing" option and release the current "348" version that has the
> > libcelt0-0 codec that has issues but retains compatability with older
> > popular mumble servers. I wouldn't /like/ this option though, because
> > I'd have to support it for two years, and upstream isn't supporting the
> > buggy CELT 0.7.1 codec at all.
> 
> Afaik, wrong. Upstream does support (as described above) both celt
> incarnations (built-in). And only the current debian package does not
> include celt (and the external lib was removed).

Just to recap:  Ron described communicating with upstream in which they did 
not commit to supporting CELT 0.7.1, which Ron said is bitstream incompatable 
with other versions of CELT.  i.e. what is reported is that only a specific 
version of CELT is allegedly not getting support upstream.



A logical thing to try from here, if you want to give this a shot, would be to 
attempt to build the current upstream version from source and see if the 
current version of CELT that it includes will work with older versions of 
mumble-server, many of which are public.

If you manage to get it to build and run, in the configuration select 
"Advanced" on the bottom left of the configure window, then in the "Audio 
Output" section under "Loopback Test", try the "server" setting and see if you 
can hear yourself through the server.

This would specifically be helpful in verifying firsthand if the newer 
versions of CELT that ship with upstream Mumble will work with older versions 
of mumble-server.

> I wonder how other distros will handle this...
> 
> In general, I had a few words with some mumble devs on IRC a few days
> back. Common thinking there was, removing celt is not a wise option, no
> real security exploits known yet, mumble will support celt for the
> foreseeable future (1 - 2 years).

Do you know if CELT still the default codec?

  -- Chris

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Chris Knadle
chris.kna...@coredump.us



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