On 11 September 2012 21:32, Chris Knadle <chris.kna...@coredump.us> wrote: > - There are other network managers than NM.
Of course, but only one is part of GNOME. Nothing else integrates into GNOME Shell's top bar or System Settings (gnome-control-center). GNOME 2 was different as wicd could integrate just as well as NetworkManager did. > - My experience has been that NM conflicts with wicd when NM is running. You have two network managers running on your computer and you expect networking to not have problems? > - Furthermore my experience has been that disabling NM via modifying the > init script (i.e. the "exit 0" suggestion which came up on [debian-devel], > or making the init script non-executble) only works until NM is upgraded, > whereby the init script is replaced and thus the NM daemon starts again -- > which on Sid happens fairly regularly. > > - Wishlist bug #685742 [1] suggested a way to disable NM permanently via a > /etc/default/<package> file (like wicd comes with) but was outright > rejected, in favor of instead using "update-rc.d network-manager disable" > -- the latter of which isn't mentioned anywhere in the documentation that > comes with NM. 'update-rc.d network-manager disable' follows the traditional way to deactivate system services. Trying to hack the init script is a bad idea and using /etc/default/ is unnecessary. It looks like you're right that NetworkManager itself doesn't come with documentation for disabling itself but maybe it should. 'man update-rc.d' works too though. Jeremy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org