On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> wrote: > David Kalnischkies <kalnischkies+deb...@gmail.com> writes: >> For me personally, its mostly that I can't easily share the modules with >> people who I can't let modules install by themselves (dkms kills the >> module in each kernel version on upgrade of the module by design in the >> hope that the new version of the module will build as well. Thats rather >> misfortune if the module is needed for proper X or WLAN as you suddenly >> have no working configuration anymore if build fails) > > I assumed that if you just built a Debian package of the module on a > single host with DKMS and installed that package on the other systems, > this would behave the way that you wanted.
I presume yes, haven't tried dkms built packages at all (and reading about them it seems like they still need dkms by default #554843), I was just horribly annoyed by the default behavior as described above a few days ago and in the end bending m-a to my will was always easier than dkms so far. >> Beside, with my APT hat on it feels of course cleaner to have APT/dpkg >> in control of which modules are installed rather than a "module manager" >> – even if this manager was created by a big company and used by many >> distros. (strawman: If that would be an argument, we should all be >> using rpm by now) > > This objection also doesn't seem to apply to using DKMS to build Debian > packages. I certainly agree for the default behavior that you get when > you install the -dkms package everywhere. The HOWTO of dkms contains "contaminate your system" to differentiate the "default" mkdeb behavior from one with --dkmsframework (whatever that does) Sounds scary, doesn't it? My point here was more an ideological one based on the default behavior as the default is what most people will do - and not completely serious either. But anyway, I think the central sentence is: > do that. It would be nice to be able to converge on a single system that > has all the required features. And I can fully subscribe to that. I can fully understand that supporting two (or even more) systems is quiet horrible from a maintainer POV – and from a user POV as well as you really don't need a choice than all you want is getting your goddamn hardware to work. Really hope we can fix that soon, whatever the winner will be. Best regards David Kalnischkies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
