Hi Bart,
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:32:53 Bart Martens wrote:
> You asked me to be more specific :
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:53:40PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> > Why? Still not convinced? Even hypothetical example should be enough
> > as long as argument make sense. IMHO at this point you shall explain
> > what stopping you from answering my question or better answer it.
>
> It's not your place to tell me what I shall do for you.
I think you misunderstood me. Let me explain. When you closed this bug,
the wiki page [1] had the following text:
Removing separate watch files
Summary : The separate watch files are removed automatically after
they are no longer needed.
Details : The separate watch files are always per package
version. A new upload of the package automatically overrides the
separate watch file. However, when the watch file included in the
newly uploaded package is still broken or contains common errors
(like using .* for version pattern) then the separate watch file
is semi-automatically reused for the new package version. For
corner cases it is best to contact the author of the separate
watch file who will take care of removing the separte watch file
or explain why it is not removed.
This answer needs more explanations regarding what criteria are used
to determine that additional debian/watch is no longer needed. Also I
doubt that author of separate debian/watch should be expected to know
how to delete it if he/she contributed it through web form.
Although you provided some additional information there were no answer
given to original question how "updated" debian/watch can be removed
or where to find them. That's where I got impatient with
unsatisfactory answer and wrote "IMHO at this point you shall explain
what stopping you from answering my question or better answer it"
which is like if I write "please answer my question or explain why it
shouldn't be answered". I reckon you could retort to this like "don't
tell me what to do" but that's IMHO is over-reacting...
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 09:21:50AM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> > I do not understand why are you hiding information how to remove
> > updated watch files from PTS. It is not good that you're appears to be
> > the only person who posses this knowledge. Also I must mention that we
> > had this discussion before in private email where you ignored my
> > question at least three times in a row. This bug report is yet another
> > call for transparency.
>
> I'm not hiding information, and that discussion via private e-mail didn't
> happen how you make it look in public now.
You are of course entitled to share your side of the story but to me
our email communication on that subject was pretty similar to your
answer to this bug where you missed or misunderstood or ignored or
failed to answer my question although provided some additional
information. If you're not tired from arguing yet then feel free to
publish my emails to you regarding "debian/watch" and expose me as
liar...
Having said the above I've just noticed that you updated text of wiki
section [1] to
Removing separate watch files
There is usually no need to manually remove a separate watch
file. The package maintainer can simply upload a new package with
a fixed included debian/watch file. The notice on the PTS will
automatically disappear.
If the separate watch file contains a mistake, then please contact
the author of the separate watch file. If that author cannot be
reached, then please contact the QA team. The separate watch files
are located in
qa.debian.org:/srv/qa.debian.org/data/watch/watchfiles .
This answer is fully satisfactory to me as now there is a clue where
to find unwanted debian/watch files in case when maintainer still
determined to remove despite your advise that it may be
unnecessary. That's exactly the answer that I was looking for but
didn't get from our email communication.
Thank you for posting this information.
Also I'd like to thank you for your care and attention to debian/watch
files. It is very valuable and appreciated work that helped to notice
many upstream releases which could be easily missed otherwise.
--
All the best,
Dmitry Smirnov.
[1]:
https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/HowToHelpWithFixingWatchFiles#Removing_separate_watch_files
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