On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:59:44PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> I guess that anyone who can figure out how to download it from
> experimental can figure out how to rebuild it for themselves ;-)

Yeah, and every time I upload something new to sid it will get removed
and have to be redone, and it will possibly encourage more people who
shouldn't be using sid and/or sid+m-a, to keep using it, etc. etc ...

Which is a good part of the reason I haven't done this double work either.

If the me-too storm proved anything at all, it was that enough people
already didn't get it without doing even more work to breed more of them.
If it wasn't for that I might have considered doing this more seriously.

It's not that hard to fix locally for anyone who cares enough to not just
use the simple and robust solution of a chroot, which doesn't have this
problem at all.


> I am confused, though, how the wheezy problem will be overcome once
> there's a stable version of opus released, but I guess you'll figure
> that one out.

It's kind of an attrition game at this stage, every week that goes by
hopefully more of the squeeze users will shift on to wheezy, and once
we have a formal stable release, further updates will be less urgent
unless they are security related or so.

At that point I'll assess whether it is worth doing two versions for
anyone who really needs a backport but can't figure out how to undo
this patch for themselves.  But if all goes well, by the time there
is some urgent update to stable opus, squeeze will also be formally
EOL too.

There's no one answer that wins for everyone here, so I'm basically
juggling harm minimisation in what seems like the most reasonable
way to minimise the work for the busiest people who do have fairly
reasonable expectations to meet.  But that is a moving equilibrium,
which eventually will tip.  It's just moving painfully slowly still :)
As these things often do.


  Cheers,
  Ron


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