Dear Maintainer, when it got to the "chose language" screen, there was no response to the keyboard or the mouse.
See below for details... -- Package-specific info: Boot method: CD Image version: /cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd Date: 2013/11/25 approximately 01:00 UTC Machine: Power Mac G4, G5 Partitions: didn't get that far Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card: [ ] Configure network: [ ] Detect CD: [ ] Load installer modules: [ ] Clock/timezone setup: [ ] User/password setup: [ ] Detect hard drives: [ ] Partition hard drives: [ ] Install base system: [ ] Install tasks: [ ] Install boot loader: [ ] Overall install: [E] Comments/Problems: I downloaded the powerpc netinst installer from /cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso 2013-11-24 23:02 257M I checked the md5 and sha1 sums, and burned it to CD. All went well. But when I booted it (on two different G4 machines and a G5) when it got to the "chose language" screen, there was no response to the keyboard or the mouse. Anybody know what's up with that? Thanks! Rick This report is being done on the G5 PowerMac mentioned above, after a successful install with the Wheezy 701 PowerPC CD#1. Obviously, I can't submit anything from the failed install, because I can't use the keyboard to access any information. -- Please make sure that the hardware-summary log file, and any other installation logs that you think would be useful are attached to this report. Please compress large files using gzip. Once you have filled out this report, mail it to sub...@bugs.debian.org. ============================================== Installer lsb-release: ============================================== DISTRIB_ID=Debian DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Debian GNU/Linux installer" DISTRIB_RELEASE="7 (wheezy) - installer build 20130613" X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom ============================================== Installer hardware-summary: ============================================== uname -a: Linux macpro 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 ppc64 GNU/Linux lspci -knn: 0000:f0:0b.0 Host bridge [0600]: Apple Inc. U3H AGP Bridge [106b:0059] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: agpgart-uninorth lspci -knn: 0000:f0:10.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] [1002:4150] lspci -knn: Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] [1002:4150] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: radeonfb lspci -knn: 0001:00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Apple Inc. U3 HT Bridge [106b:0057] lspci -knn: 0001:00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Apple Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge [106b:0045] lspci -knn: 0001:00:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Apple Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge [106b:0046] lspci -knn: 0001:00:03.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Apple Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge [106b:0047] lspci -knn: 0001:00:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Apple Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge [106b:0048] lspci -knn: 0001:00:05.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Apple Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge [106b:0049] lspci -knn: 0001:01:07.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Apple Inc. K2 KeyLargo Mac/IO [106b:0041] (rev 60) lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: macio lspci -knn: 0001:01:08.0 USB controller [0c03]: Apple Inc. K2 KeyLargo USB [106b:0040] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd lspci -knn: 0001:01:09.0 USB controller [0c03]: Apple Inc. K2 KeyLargo USB [106b:0040] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd lspci -knn: 0001:02:0d.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Apple Inc. K2 ATA/100 [106b:0043] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pata-pci-macio lspci -knn: 0001:02:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Apple Inc. K2 FireWire [106b:0042] lspci -knn: Subsystem: Apple Inc. Device [106b:5811] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci lspci -knn: 0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Apple Inc. K2 GMAC (Sun GEM) [106b:004c] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: gem lspci -knn: 0001:04:0c.0 IDE interface [0101]: Broadcom K2 SATA [1166:0240] lspci -knn: Subsystem: Broadcom K2 SATA [1166:0240] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: sata_svw lspci -knn: 0001:05:01.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Apple Inc. Device [106b:004e] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge lspci -knn: 0001:05:0b.0 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation USB [1033:0035] (rev 43) lspci -knn: Subsystem: NEC Corporation USB [1033:0035] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd lspci -knn: 0001:05:0b.1 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation USB [1033:0035] (rev 43) lspci -knn: Subsystem: NEC Corporation USB [1033:0035] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd lspci -knn: 0001:05:0b.2 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 [1033:00e0] (rev 04) lspci -knn: Subsystem: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 [1033:00e0] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd usb-list: usb-list: Bus 01 Device 01: EHCI Host Controller [1d6b:0002] usb-list: Level 00 Parent 00 Port 00 Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 usb-list: Manufacturer: Linux 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 ehci_hcd usb-list: Interface 00: Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub usb-list: usb-list: Bus 01 Device 02: EHCI Host Controller [0409:005a] usb-list: Level 01 Parent 01 Port 03 Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 01 usb-list: Interface 00: Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub usb-list: usb-list: Bus 01 Device 03: EHCI Host Controller [0557:8021] usb-list: Level 02 Parent 02 Port 03 Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 usb-list: Interface 00: Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub usb-list: usb-list: Bus 01 Device 04: Apple Extended USB Keyboard [05ac:0204] usb-list: Level 03 Parent 03 Port 00 Class 00(>ifc ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 usb-list: Manufacturer: Mitsumi Electric usb-list: Interface 00: Class 03(HID ) Subclass 01 Protocol 01 Driver usbhid usb-list: Interface 01: Class 03(HID ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver usbhid usb-list: Interface 02: Class 03(HID ) Subclass 01 Protocol 02 Driver usbhid usb-list: usb-list: Bus 02 Device 01: OHCI Host Controller [1d6b:0001] usb-list: Level 00 Parent 00 Port 00 Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 usb-list: Manufacturer: Linux 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 ohci_hcd usb-list: Interface 00: Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub usb-list: usb-list: Bus 03 Device 01: OHCI Host Controller [1d6b:0001] usb-list: Level 00 Parent 00 Port 00 Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 usb-list: Manufacturer: Linux 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 ohci_hcd usb-list: Interface 00: Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub usb-list: usb-list: Bus 04 Device 01: OHCI Host Controller [1d6b:0001] usb-list: Level 00 Parent 00 Port 00 Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 usb-list: Manufacturer: Linux 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 ohci_hcd usb-list: Interface 00: Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub usb-list: usb-list: Bus 05 Device 01: OHCI Host Controller [1d6b:0001] usb-list: Level 00 Parent 00 Port 00 Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 usb-list: Manufacturer: Linux 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 ohci_hcd usb-list: Interface 00: Class 09(hub ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub lsmod: Module Size Used by lsmod: fuse 83104 0 lsmod: ufs 82230 0 lsmod: hfsplus 90335 0 lsmod: reiserfs 286060 0 lsmod: usblp 15662 0 lsmod: nls_utf8 3660 0 lsmod: dm_mod 93728 9 lsmod: md_mod 119708 0 lsmod: xfs 769865 0 lsmod: jfs 188224 0 lsmod: hfs 57302 0 lsmod: ext4 459391 2 lsmod: crc16 3076 1 ext4 lsmod: jbd2 84639 1 ext4 lsmod: ext3 212973 0 lsmod: jbd 75718 1 ext3 lsmod: btrfs 730845 0 lsmod: crc32c 5187 1 lsmod: libcrc32c 3338 1 btrfs lsmod: vfat 14927 0 lsmod: fat 63315 1 vfat lsmod: ext2 81388 1 lsmod: mbcache 9466 3 ext2,ext3,ext4 lsmod: sd_mod 41866 3 lsmod: crc_t10dif 3065 1 sd_mod lsmod: ssb 67878 0 lsmod: mmc_core 96290 1 ssb lsmod: pcmcia 45024 1 ssb lsmod: pcmcia_core 19226 1 pcmcia lsmod: sungem 55125 0 lsmod: sata_svw 11889 2 lsmod: sungem_phy 16173 1 sungem lsmod: isofs 39032 0 lsmod: usb_storage 53364 0 lsmod: usbhid 44582 0 lsmod: hid 91492 1 usbhid lsmod: ohci_hcd 56517 0 lsmod: ehci_hcd 76672 0 lsmod: sg 31046 0 lsmod: sr_mod 21340 0 lsmod: cdrom 41638 1 sr_mod lsmod: therm_pm72 25931 0 lsmod: firewire_ohci 50729 0 lsmod: usbcore 178734 6 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,usbhid,usb_storage,usblp lsmod: firewire_core 62390 1 firewire_ohci lsmod: ata_generic 6366 0 lsmod: crc_itu_t 3096 1 firewire_core lsmod: usb_common 2639 1 usbcore lsmod: i2c_powermac 7306 0 df: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on df: none 200564 64 200500 0% /run df: tmpfs 1002808 0 1002808 0% /dev df: /dev/mapper/macpro-root df: 9611492 2868232 6255020 31% /target df: /dev/sda3 234297 26932 194865 12% /target/boot df: /dev/mapper/macpro-home df: 96118540 192204 91043700 0% /target/home df: /dev/mapper/macpro-root df: 9611492 2868232 6255020 31% /dev/.static/dev df: tmpfs 1002808 0 1002808 0% /target/dev free: total used free shared buffers free: Mem: 2005616 1607020 398596 0 153104 free: -/+ buffers: 1453916 551700 free: Swap: 19529724 0 19529724 /proc/cmdline: ro ramdisk_size=10240 priority=low -- desktop=xfce /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 /proc/cpuinfo: cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported /proc/cpuinfo: clock : 2000.000000MHz /proc/cpuinfo: revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300) /proc/cpuinfo: /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 1 /proc/cpuinfo: cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported /proc/cpuinfo: clock : 2000.000000MHz /proc/cpuinfo: revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300) /proc/cpuinfo: /proc/cpuinfo: timebase : 33333333 /proc/cpuinfo: platform : PowerMac /proc/cpuinfo: model : PowerMac7,3 /proc/cpuinfo: machine : PowerMac7,3 /proc/cpuinfo: motherboard : PowerMac7,3 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh /proc/cpuinfo: detected as : 336 (PowerMac G5) /proc/cpuinfo: pmac flags : 00000000 /proc/cpuinfo: L2 cache : 512K unified /proc/cpuinfo: pmac-generation : NewWorld /proc/ioports: 00010000-0080ffff : /pci@0,f0000000 /proc/ioports: 00010400-000104ff : 0000:f0:10.0 /proc/ioports: 00811000-00c10fff : /ht@0,f2000000 /proc/ioports: 00811000-00811fff : Legacy IO /proc/iomem: 00000000-7fffffff : System RAM /proc/iomem: 80000000-8fffffff : /ht@0,f2000000 /proc/iomem: 80000000-800fffff : PCI Bus 0001:01 /proc/iomem: 80000000-8007ffff : 0001:01:07.0 /proc/iomem: 80000000-8007ffff : 0.80000000:mac-io /proc/iomem: 8000002c-8000002f : 0.0000004c:fans /proc/iomem: 80000030-80000033 : 0.0000004c:fans /proc/iomem: 80000034-80000037 : 0.0000004c:fans /proc/iomem: 8000004c-8000004f : 0.0000004c:fans /proc/iomem: 80000050-8000008a : 0.00000050:gpio /proc/iomem: 80008000-800083ff : 0.00010000:i2s /proc/iomem: 80010000-80010fff : 0.00010000:i2s /proc/iomem: 80013000-80013000 : 0.00013000:ch-b /proc/iomem: 80013000-80013000 : pmac_zilog /proc/iomem: 80013010-80013010 : 0.00013000:ch-b /proc/iomem: 80013010-80013010 : pmac_zilog /proc/iomem: 80013020-80013020 : 0.00013020:ch-a /proc/iomem: 80013020-80013020 : pmac_zilog /proc/iomem: 80013030-80013030 : 0.00013020:ch-a /proc/iomem: 80013030-80013030 : pmac_zilog /proc/iomem: 80013040-80013040 : 0.00013000:ch-b /proc/iomem: 80013040-80013040 : pmac_zilog /proc/iomem: 80013050-80013050 : 0.00013020:ch-a /proc/iomem: 80013050-80013050 : pmac_zilog /proc/iomem: 80015000-80015fff : 0.00015000:timer /proc/iomem: 80016000-80017fff : 0.00016000:via-pmu /proc/iomem: 80018000-80018fff : 0.00018000:i2c /proc/iomem: 80040000-8007ffff : 0.00040000:mpic /proc/iomem: 80080000-80080fff : 0001:01:09.0 /proc/iomem: 80080000-80080fff : ohci_hcd /proc/iomem: 80081000-80081fff : 0001:01:08.0 /proc/iomem: 80081000-80081fff : ohci_hcd /proc/iomem: 80100000-801fffff : PCI Bus 0001:02 /proc/iomem: 80100000-80100fff : 0001:02:0e.0 /proc/iomem: 80100000-80100fff : firewire_ohci /proc/iomem: 80104000-80107fff : 0001:02:0d.0 /proc/iomem: 80104000-80107fff : pata-macio /proc/iomem: 80200000-805fffff : PCI Bus 0001:03 /proc/iomem: 80200000-802fffff : 0001:03:0f.0 /proc/iomem: 80400000-805fffff : 0001:03:0f.0 /proc/iomem: 80400000-805fffff : sungem /proc/iomem: 80600000-806fffff : PCI Bus 0001:04 /proc/iomem: 80600000-80601fff : 0001:04:0c.0 /proc/iomem: 80600000-80601fff : sata_svw /proc/iomem: 80700000-807fffff : PCI Bus 0001:05 /proc/iomem: 80700000-807000ff : 0001:05:0b.2 /proc/iomem: 80700000-807000ff : ehci_hcd /proc/iomem: 80701000-80701fff : 0001:05:0b.1 /proc/iomem: 80701000-80701fff : ohci_hcd /proc/iomem: 80702000-80702fff : 0001:05:0b.0 /proc/iomem: 80702000-80702fff : ohci_hcd /proc/iomem: 80704000-80705fff : 0001:05:01.0 /proc/iomem: 80704000-80705fff : 0001:05:01.0 /proc/iomem: 90000000-9fffffff : /pci@0,f0000000 /proc/iomem: 90000000-9000ffff : 0000:f0:10.0 /proc/iomem: 90000000-9000ffff : radeonfb mmio /proc/iomem: 90020000-9003ffff : 0000:f0:10.0 /proc/iomem: 98000000-9fffffff : 0000:f0:10.0 /proc/iomem: 98000000-9fffffff : radeonfb framebuffer /proc/iomem: a0000000-efffffff : /ht@0,f2000000 /proc/iomem: f1000000-f1ffffff : /pci@0,f0000000 /proc/iomem: fa000000-ffffffff : /ht@0,f2000000 /proc/interrupts: CPU0 CPU1 /proc/interrupts: 16: 92195 281020 MPIC 2 Level keywest i2c /proc/interrupts: 17: 69637 209065 MPIC 1 Level sata_svw /proc/interrupts: 25: 14 1547 MPIC 1 Level VIA-PMU /proc/interrupts: 26: 0 0 MPIC 1 Level keywest i2c /proc/interrupts: 27: 1 0 MPIC 1 Level ohci_hcd:usb2 /proc/interrupts: 28: 0 1 MPIC 1 Level ohci_hcd:usb3 /proc/interrupts: 39: 2352 6757 MPIC 1 Level pata-pci-macio /proc/interrupts: 40: 9 35 MPIC 1 Level firewire_ohci /proc/interrupts: 41: 110009 333919 MPIC 1 Level eth0 /proc/interrupts: 47: 0 0 MPIC 1 Level GPIO1 ADB /proc/interrupts: 63: 211 691 MPIC 1 Level ehci_hcd:usb1, ohci_hcd:usb4, ohci_hcd:usb5 /proc/interrupts: 251: 0 0 MPIC 1 Edge ipi call function /proc/interrupts: 252: 116023 103183 MPIC 1 Edge ipi reschedule /proc/interrupts: 253: 68351 31247 MPIC 1 Edge ipi call function single /proc/interrupts: 254: 0 0 MPIC 1 Edge ipi debugger /proc/interrupts: LOC: 203246 221396 Local timer interrupts /proc/interrupts: SPU: 0 140 Spurious interrupts /proc/interrupts: CNT: 0 0 Performance monitoring interrupts /proc/interrupts: MCE: 0 0 Machine check exceptions /proc/meminfo: MemTotal: 2005616 kB /proc/meminfo: MemFree: 398944 kB /proc/meminfo: Buffers: 153104 kB /proc/meminfo: Cached: 1223504 kB /proc/meminfo: SwapCached: 0 kB /proc/meminfo: Active: 423216 kB /proc/meminfo: Inactive: 946708 kB /proc/meminfo: Active(anon): 3788 kB /proc/meminfo: Inactive(anon): 17852 kB /proc/meminfo: Active(file): 419428 kB /proc/meminfo: Inactive(file): 928856 kB /proc/meminfo: Unevictable: 28252 kB /proc/meminfo: Mlocked: 0 kB /proc/meminfo: SwapTotal: 19529724 kB /proc/meminfo: SwapFree: 19529724 kB /proc/meminfo: Dirty: 1964 kB /proc/meminfo: Writeback: 0 kB /proc/meminfo: AnonPages: 21536 kB /proc/meminfo: Mapped: 2732 kB /proc/meminfo: Shmem: 64 kB /proc/meminfo: Slab: 178412 kB /proc/meminfo: SReclaimable: 161900 kB /proc/meminfo: SUnreclaim: 16512 kB /proc/meminfo: KernelStack: 1184 kB /proc/meminfo: PageTables: 692 kB /proc/meminfo: NFS_Unstable: 0 kB /proc/meminfo: Bounce: 0 kB /proc/meminfo: WritebackTmp: 0 kB /proc/meminfo: CommitLimit: 20532532 kB /proc/meminfo: Committed_AS: 26880 kB /proc/meminfo: VmallocTotal: 8589934592 kB /proc/meminfo: VmallocUsed: 24720 kB /proc/meminfo: VmallocChunk: 8589877924 kB /proc/meminfo: HugePages_Total: 0 /proc/meminfo: HugePages_Free: 0 /proc/meminfo: HugePages_Rsvd: 0 /proc/meminfo: HugePages_Surp: 0 /proc/meminfo: Hugepagesize: 16384 kB /proc/bus/input/devices: I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0001 Product=0001 Version=0100 /proc/bus/input/devices: N: Name="PMU" /proc/bus/input/devices: P: Phys= /proc/bus/input/devices: S: Sysfs=/devices/virtual/input/input0 /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= /proc/bus/input/devices: H: Handlers=kbd /proc/bus/input/devices: B: PROP=0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: EV=23 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: KEY=100000 0 0 0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: SW=1 /proc/bus/input/devices: /proc/bus/input/devices: I: Bus=0003 Vendor=05ac Product=0204 Version=0110 /proc/bus/input/devices: N: Name="Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard" /proc/bus/input/devices: P: Phys=usb-0001:05:0b.2-4.4.1/input0 /proc/bus/input/devices: S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0001:00/0001:00:02.0/0001:05:0b.2/usb1/1-4/1-4.4/1-4.4.1/1-4.4.1:1.0/input/input1 /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= /proc/bus/input/devices: H: Handlers=sysrq kbd /proc/bus/input/devices: B: PROP=0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: EV=120013 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: KEY=10000 7 ff9f207a c14057ff febeffdf ffefffff ffffffff fffffffe /proc/bus/input/devices: B: MSC=10 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: LED=1f /proc/bus/input/devices: /proc/bus/input/devices: I: Bus=0003 Vendor=05ac Product=0204 Version=0110 /proc/bus/input/devices: N: Name="Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard" /proc/bus/input/devices: P: Phys=usb-0001:05:0b.2-4.4.1/input1 /proc/bus/input/devices: S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0001:00/0001:00:02.0/0001:05:0b.2/usb1/1-4/1-4.4/1-4.4.1/1-4.4.1:1.1/input/input2 /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= /proc/bus/input/devices: H: Handlers=kbd /proc/bus/input/devices: B: PROP=0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: EV=13 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: KEY=10000 17a 840c000 e0000 0 0 0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: MSC=10 /proc/bus/input/devices: /proc/bus/input/devices: I: Bus=0003 Vendor=05ac Product=0204 Version=0110 /proc/bus/input/devices: N: Name="Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard" /proc/bus/input/devices: P: Phys=usb-0001:05:0b.2-4.4.1/input2 /proc/bus/input/devices: S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0001:00/0001:00:02.0/0001:05:0b.2/usb1/1-4/1-4.4/1-4.4.1/1-4.4.1:1.2/input/input3 /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= /proc/bus/input/devices: H: Handlers=mouse0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: PROP=0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: EV=17 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: KEY=1f0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: REL=103 /proc/bus/input/devices: B: MSC=10 /proc/bus/input/devices: -- System Information: Debian Release: 7.2 APT prefers stable-updates APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: powerpc (ppc64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". 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