Hi again Andreas,

Le vendredi, 3 janvier 2014, 23.53:48 Andreas Barth a écrit :
> * Didier 'OdyX' Raboud (o...@debian.org) [140103 23:43]:
> > Considering you've had your chance to respond to this (and given
> > that you managed to respond in less than a half-hour last time), I
> > have uploaded the proposed debdiff to DELAYED/5 as announced.
> 
> Sorry, this is not acceptable.

Your take.

>From my side, I don't find acceptable that you block a reasonable patch 
for a serious bug that triggers the ftp-master autoreject lintian check; 
proposed since four months without a review (or any sort of statement 
about the patch) from your side. I find it totally incomprehensible that 
you block RC fixes for a package you haven't uploaded yourself in six 
_years_.

Furthermore, the continued existence of this bug lead to the automated 
removal of mgetty, courier, courier-filter-perl, mysqmail, and 
couriergrey from testing [0,1]. This bug was brought to my attention by 
the (non-DD) maintainer of couriergrey who was puzzled about his package 
being taken out of testing. Not being able to timely fix bugs in 
reverse-dependencies IMHO makes the auto-removal process just more 
painful for unnecessary reasons.

For the record, the patch proposed by gregor to fix this bug has the 
following stats:

 mgetty-fax.dirs     |    2 --
 mgetty-fax.postinst |    3 +--
 mgetty-fax.postrm   |    1 +
 3 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

I think we both spent way more time arguing than it would have taken you 
to properly review it and {N,}ACK it (and fix two RC bugs in the 
process).

> Please remove it immediatly.

I canceled it yesterday night.

> I made a statement as maintainer I do not want this upload at this
> time and asked you for a little bit of time to review the change. 

Fair enough. I initially read your "So please remove your upload until I 
can review the situation again." differently than I do now; I've 
probably been too stubborn, sorry for that.

> You are not authorized to behave the way you did.

As I argued before, my reading of your initial opposition (against 
variations of rmdir -f) and the NMU guidelines would have initially 
allowed me a direct upload. Now that you insisted on blocking all 
uploads, right; sorry for that.

> Also, if it is that urgent, why did you not e.g. ping me on IRC?

It's been urgent (as in RC) for more than four months, why didn't you 
review the proposed patch </sarcasm>?

Also, on a more serious tone, I generally want to keep track of bug 
conversations in the public bug logs (in this case, more especially so 
as you suggested an appeal to the tech-ctte…).

Anyway. I'm giving up on this for now, with the hope that mgetty's 
reverse dependencies will somehow find a way towards testing.

With my best regards,

OdyX

[0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing-changes/2013/12/msg00050.html 
[1] Arguably, courier has its own RC bug.

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