I'm taking off my secretarial hat for a moment and presenting a short polemic in favour of my proposal over Russ's (whether as amended by Andi or not).
I'm addressing myself primarily to the members of the TC who are in favour of diversity in init systems, and in architectures, and who think that the freedom and autonomy of our users and downstreams is more important than the convenience of us or our upstreams. Do not think that Russ's text does anything to support these goals. Nothing in it goes beyond the obvious and even that is purely advice. It doesn't explicitly address the key question: "is it OK to require a specific init system". But, implicitly, it says "yes, that is OK". We need to send a clear signal about our commitment to diversity that will be received not just in Debian, but also in the upstream communities where key decisions are being made - specifically, about whether it is OK to require systemd. Russ's text does not contain any kind of decision or statement that could be used as a part of a strong argument by systemd sceptics in the GNOME community, for example. And, we need to make a commitment internally that we intend to continue to support and encourage diversity and choice for the foreseeable future. Russ's proposal is worse than "no decision now". At least Keith's text clearly ducks the critical question. Russ answers it the wrong way. The fact that Russ's resolution text doesn't make its own unpleasant consequences explicit is effective politics, but it makes for a bad TC ruling. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org