I will check arch and be back with information later today or tomorrow.  
One thing I forgot to mention is that when this system boots up, the 
first speakers to click on are the large usb speakers and this is no 
different in talkingarch either April 2014 version.  This may turn out 
to be a udev problem in that incorrect rules are being written in those 
files automatically by udev.  I haven't yet mastered udev rules writing 
yet so don't yet do anything to those files until I understand that 
process.

On Thu, 17 Apr 2014, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Jude DaShiell, le Tue 15 Apr 2014 07:31:06 -0400, a ?crit :
> > The fact that the debian installer also fails to find and use my usb 
> > speakers points at a larger problem though.
> 
> Well, not really: the debian installer is a special case of a Debian
> system, things may not work there at all while they would on an
> installed system.
> 
> > archlinux has no trouble with this at all  for whatever reason.
> 
> Perhaps archlinux outputs to all cards at the same time?  Or perhaps by
> luck archlinux gets the USB soundcard as first one?  How does aplay -L
> show up there?
> 
> >    * I expected to be able to switch from conventional stereo speakers
> > by modifying configuration file and expected espeakup would find
> > those usb speakers when I tried an install, Also documentation in
> > /etc/default/espeakup for this case was missing.
> 
> I have completed the paragraph:
> 
>  # To choose audio output on another sound card, uncomment this and set as
> +# appropriate (either a card number or a card name as seen in CARD= alsa
> +# output).
>  #
>  # export ALSA_CARD=0
> 
> Now, that will only be feasible for an installed system.  About
> debian-installer time, I guess we would ideally want to emit the synth
> to all sound cards?  I'm afraid espeakup might just not support this,
> and we'd have to chose a card.  I'm wondering whether we really want to
> provide the user with a way to select it at debian-installer time, just
> like we don't make him select which graphic card should be used.
> 
> Samuel
> 
> 

jude <jdash...@shellworld.net>


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