Hi Lennart,

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Lennart Poettering
<lenn...@poettering.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23.04.14 07:42, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) (mtk.manpa...@gmail.com) 
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/21/2014 05:01 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 03:39:20PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) 
>> > wrote:
>> >> On 04/21/2014 10:04 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>> >>> [Roger Leigh]
>> >>>> Sorry, I've not done anything on this lately--I'm not too active in
>> >>>> Debian at present due to RSI and other reasons.  Petter, would you
>> >>>> possibly be able to look into this on the sysvinit side?
>> >>>
>> >>> As far as I can see from <URL: https://bugs.debian.org/669866 >, the
>> >>> upstream manpages maintainer is waiting for copyright information for
>> >>> the hostname.5 file.  This can only be provide by the authors, and
>> >>> nothing I can do from the sysvinit side.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Exactly. The page text says it was written by Lennart P and Roger. If
>> >> they're both agreeable, and have a license, then I'd take the page.
>> >
>> > For my part, I'm happy for my contributions to this page to be licensed
>> > under whatever DFSG-free licence you use for the manpages.
>>
>> Hi Lennart,
>>
>> See https://bugs.debian.org/669866.
>>
>> Roger Leigh has made a proposal that the hostname(5) page should be
>> upstreamed into man-pages. This makes some sense to me, since
>> /etc/hostname is a standard system file (like /etc/paasswwd,
>> /etc/group, etc.), and most of those are documented by man-pages.
>>
>> It appears that the page is currently distributed by both Debian and
>> as part of systemd, and the version referred top in the bug is noted
>> as being written by you and Roger. What do you think of passing this
>> page to man-pages? Does it make sense?
>
> I don't mind if the man page is added to the manpages package under any
> license you like, but do note that /etc/hostname is a Debianism, which
> we added to systemd and thus is now supported by the union of
> Debian-derived distributions and those which adopted systemd. I am not
> sure what the rules regarding what belongs in the manpages package is,
> but I have the suspicion that at least Slackware and Gentoo don't have
> this file.
>
> Also, in the systemd context the man page refers to "hostnamectl(1)"
> which doesn't exist outside of systemd, and we make stricter
> recommendations on the hostname to store in /etc/hostname than debian
> probably traditionally made.

Thanks for the above details, which I was unaware of. Sounds to me
like it would be best not to take this into man-pages. I'll leave
Debian to work out what they want to do.

> How does the Debian version of the man page look like? Is it available
> online? How would the version you'd add to the manpages package look
> like?

See below.

> The systemd version you find here:
>
> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/hostname.html

Looks pretty similar.

Cheers,

Michael


diff -urN manpages-3.35.original/man5/hostname.5 manpages-3.35/man5/hostname.5
--- manpages-3.35.original/man5/hostname.5    1970-01-01
01:00:00.000000000 +0100
+++ manpages-3.35/man5/hostname.5    2012-04-21 14:53:11.618069753 +0100
@@ -0,0 +1,33 @@
+.TH HOSTNAME 5 2012-04-09 "Linux" "Linux Programmer's Manual"
+.SH NAME
+/etc/hostname \- local host name configuration
+.SH DESCRIPTION
+The
+.B /etc/hostname
+file configures the name of the local system that is set during boot,
+with the
+.BR hostname (1)
+command.  It should contain a single newline-terminated host name
+string. The host name may be a free-form string up to 64 characters in
+length, however it is recommended that it consists only of 7bit ASCII
+lower-case characters and no spaces or dots, and limits itself to the
+format allowed for DNS domain name labels, even though this is not a
+strict requirement.
+.PP
+Depending on the operating system other configuration files might be
+checked for configuration of the host name as well, however only as a
+fallback.
+.SH FILES
+.I /etc/hostname
+.SH NOTES
+The hostname file and format are supported by both the Debian System V
+init system (initscripts) and systemd.
+.SH SEE ALSO
+.PP
+.BR hostname (1),
+.BR sethostname (2),
+.BR hostname (7).
+.SH AUTHORS
+.PP
+Lennart Poettering <lenn...@poettering.net> and Roger Leigh
+<rle...@debian.org>.


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