On 14/08/14 14:11, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 14.08.2014 14:57, schrieb Michael Biebl:
>> Am 14.08.2014 14:30, schrieb Paul Wise:
>>> On Thu, 2014-08-14 at 14:15 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>>>
>>>> fwiw, we are using "User:
>>>> pkg-systemd-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org" since a while now.
>>>
>>> Ah, there are still some bugs with the old user, sorry. BTW archived
>>> bugs can now have their usertags altered so that could be fixed.
>>>
>>>> Hm, it seems dnsmasq requires dbus in any case, even when running under
>>>> sysvinit or upstart. So I don't understand the alternative dependency
>>>> you suggest. Afaics, dnsmasq should simply add a Depends on dbus?
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, dnsmasq doesn't need dbus under sysvinit, not sure
>>> about upstart though.
>>
>> Hm, right. It seems so use --enable-dbus when being run under systemd.
>>
>> You've proposed: Depends: dbus | sysvinit-core | upstart
>>
>> But even with sysvinit-core installed, one can boot using the
>> init=/bin/systemd command line.
>> So maybe a simple: Recommend: dbus is better?
>>
>> I'm also inclined to just make systemd depend or at least recommend
>> dbus, seeing [1]
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758111
>>
> 
> After some more discussion on #debian-systemd, we decided to make
> systemd recommend dbus.
> After all, when unprivileged users use systemctl, a dbus system bus is
> required and apparently we also need it for [1]
> 
> 
> 

This seems like the correct solution, certainly from the point of view
of the dnsmasq maintainer. There's no reason why dbus is needed if
dnsmasq is started by sysvinit, so I'm not inclined to make dnsmasq
recommend it.



I'll close the dnsmasq bug.

Cheers,

Simon.
> 


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