OK, if I log in as a different user and use metacity, these effects do not seem to occur. So it does look like a problem between sawfish and etch's new KDE libs.
FWIW, it's not *all* KDE apps. noatun for example causes no problems. Cheers, Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]