-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:25:02 +0100 Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 12:17:25PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:25:13 +0100 > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Maybe the best idea would be to have yaird as first default as > > > now, but have the dependencies install both, which would > > > guarantee it always works. > > > > A better approach IMHO is to recommend (not depend on) alternative > > ramdisk tool than the one picked as default. > > Well, with tools like aptitude, there is not much of a difference. Yes there is: Aptitude treats recommends as they are: Recommended but acceptable to explicitly avoid. Or, as I do for some setups: explicitly avoid recommended packages *always* by passing it - --with-recommends. > > initramfs-tools will pull in udev which is unwanted for some, and > > yaird will similarly pull in perl dependencies that is unwanted for > > some. > > perl dependencies are hardly problematic, especially since we have > perl-base, altough it would be good to make yaird depend on perl-base > only, but we discussed this already. Udev might be more legitimate to > not want though. Stop spreading FUD, please. this has been discussed before and it does not seem likely to have yaird use only perl-base without extensive changes. > > Sure, both can be seen as weird complaints (I have had my fights > > with convincing the php4 maintainer to not depend on X11 by default > > when > > This is also a sane complaint, we divided ocaml packages between the > x version and the nox stuff too. Please note that I did not claim insanity. I wrote that it _can_ be seen as weird. Agreeing with me is no argument that others can see it as weird. If interested then I'd appreciate help making libgd dependent packages build-depend on the -noxpm variant development packages, but really that is irrelevant for this bugreport. > > sanely avoidable), but I don't think disliking udev should force > > one to either recompile kernels or use equivs. > > Yep, that makes sense. Too bad dependencies don't allow us to do > something more advanced. I just porposed a possible approach: When depending on yaird then recommend initramfs-tools, and vice versa. I am aware that apt-get ignores recommends, but that is a bug with apt, and everytime people are hit by that bug we get a chance to advertise aptitude (and if such advertisement is refused with "apt-get is good enough for me", well - then it's their own fault they get hurt by things like this). - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ - Enden er nær: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDjwDMn7DbMsAkQLgRAnnZAJ9JPKevwJ6LklwoWJ4RPy5eUMSZnACdHMmh hCrRrAG92MmkxDLEmG6ku9c= =nzYT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----