On 2014-09-26 20:51:18, Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
> hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:30:04PM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote:
>> > But it seems no one objected to the solution of splitting it out in
>> > Debian at least, if the dependent packages are fixed.
>> 
>> Yes, that would alleviate/solve the problem.
>
> definitely
>
>> > I can try to talk to people at debconf about this to see if I can unglue
>> > this mess directly.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I will not be at this debconf (even though I wanted to), but
>> if you can talk with Joey, that would be great.
>
> do you know if discussion happened at debconf? just came across this on a
> jessie system and it is really a sad state right now :(

At this point, moreutils doesn't conflict with gnu parallel, and that is
intentional. It is gnu parallel that conflicts with moreutils.

I talked briefly with Joey about this. Obviously, it's a rather annoying
issue for him, since the whole thing went as far as a CTTE bug
(#665851). The result of that discussion were unclear: no decision was
reached by the CTTE.

From what I understand, joey doesn't want to be bothered with this. He
barely has time to maintain moreutils at all and has critical opinion of
gnu parallel, which breaks his ikiwiki-hosting package. Therefore,
ikiwiki-hosting conflicts with gnu parallel.

So I doubt we can coninve Joey to fix this problem the way we are
proposing now, but it's possible.

If someone wants to go forward here, there would need to be a set of
patches that would create conflicting binary packages for both that will
divert /usr/bin/parallel. A patch on ikiwiki-hosting to depend on
moreutils-parallel would also then be necessary.

Then we send this to the moreutils and gnu parallel maintainers to see
if they would accept the fix, and we can simply NMU it.

But the main problem, to restate what Joey has said here, is time: it
takes time to do that work and unless someone steps up to help the
maintainers patiently to clear things up, things will stay as they
currently are.

A.
-- 
Modern man has a kind of poverty of the spirit which stands
in great contrast to his remarkable scientific and technological
achievements. We've learned to walk in outer space and yet we
haven't learned to walk to earth as brothers and sisters.
                        - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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