Ben Armstrong wrote:
> Both Mate and Cinnamon feature
> the traditional panel and menu design that GNOME 2 did, so share more in
> common in design than they do with gnome-shell

But then there's gnome 3 fallback mode.

> What perplexes me is why Mate, which is a throwback desktop based on an
> aging codebase with none of the niceties introduced by GNOME 3 is now
> visible whereas the (imho) saner, forwards-looking Cinnamon, which takes
> advantage of those improvements gets relegated to the sidelines due to
> having too many "common characteristics" with GNOME 3.

Another way of looking at this is that cinnamon apparently includes only
around 20 mb of different packages than gnome 3. (So, the gnome DVD will
probably include cinnamon.) It's almost closer to an alternate theme
than a separate desktop. Being on this boundary makes it hard to decide
if tasksel should include it.

> Indeed, and seems doomed to remain less popular if users don't even know
> that it's an option because they can't see it when they install.

If there is demand for cinnamon, then I'd expect to see an initial
popcon curve for it that looks something like the curve for mate, at the
time before mate was available in tasksel. So not adding cinnamon to
tasksel immediately, does not preclude drawing useful inferences from
popcon data. It's a bit too early to tell what kind of curve we're
seeing for cinnamon.

-- 
see shy jo

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