Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> From the client (where I DO have bos/vos). Can't it be started/stopped
> without it (i.e., can it be (easily) made to work without bos)?

No, it can't.  Well, it can be started without bos, but there's no
supported way to shut the servers down cleanly or restart them without
bos.

> If not, can bos/vos (or only bos) be put in a -common or
> 'openafs-server-clients' package? Or included in the
> openafs-{db,file}server package(s) (with overrides or/and what not)...

I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve.  As near as I can tell,
all this would do is save a bit of disk space at the cost of making the
packaging more complex.  Chances are you're not going to notice that 2MB
on a file server anyway.  (Except it shouldn't necessarily suck in the
source package, as you mention below.)

> I know it complicates things, but I just can't install openafs-client on
> my server(s). The're SPARC64 (with kernel 2.6), and i never been able to
> compile the module for that arch/kernel...

I'm not sure how that's relevant.  openafs-client isn't the kernel module.
Just install openafs-client and say that you don't want it to start at
boot, and it won't ever try to load a kernel module.

I guess I could see maybe breaking off the utilities that don't require
the kernel module be loaded to work.  I'm just not sure if the effort and
possible user confusion is worth it to save a little disk space on a
rather unusual configuration.

And yeah, as near as I can tell it doesn't work upstream with sparc64;
there's an open bug about that, but I don't think there's anyone upstream
who has sparc64 hardware they want to run AFS on.

>     Russ> You don't need to install the kernel module provided that
>     Russ> you always use the -localauth flag, and indeed the kernel
>     Russ> module isn't required (only recommended).

> Not quite so:

> ----- s n i p -----
> pumba.pts/9]$ dpkg -I openafs-client_1.4.0-2_sparc.deb | grep -i depends
>  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libncurses5 (>= 5.2.20020112a-1), debconf (>= 
> 0.5), sysvinit (>= 2.80-1), openafs-modules-source (>= 1.2.9) | 
> openafs-modules2
> ----- s n i p -----

Oh, the source is required.  Hm.  I should maybe downgrade that to
recommends since you really don't have to have the kernel module
installed.  You do for some of the client-side utilities, but not for all
of them.

> Didn't work any way (seems 1.3 and 1.4 can't work together in the same
> cell!?).

1.3 and 1.4 work fine together in the same cell (and with 1.2 and with
much earlier versions).  You're going to have to give me more error
information....

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Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>


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