Before anything else, Michal: Please remember Debian is a volunteer-run project. It is sometimes tempting to reply mails in a haste and making ironic remarks to drive your points further. But mails such as this one are not welcome in Debian. Please assume good faith, and treat everybody with respect.
Michal Suchanek dijo [Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 09:34:22AM +0100]: > Sure, it's always user error when something fails. Systems upgraded > from Ubuntu are not supported, systems upgraded from Debian are not > supported, nor are systems freshly bootstrapped and booted inside > qemu. Because all these fail. Upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian is not supported. The two distributions share a lot, but differ also a lot, and there will be cruft left that can get in the way for anything repeatable. Having repeatable results is key for bug resolution. Ubuntu has several package versions which have never been in a Debian Stable release. Upgrades are only supported from Debian - Be it from a stable to a newer stable release, or between points in time in testing and unstable. We have strict policies to ensure version madness will not bite us, but we cannot cover the range of combinations that will bite you if you sidegrade from Ubuntu — Or from any other derived distribution. > However, I had this biased personal opinion that the goal of the > Debian project should to remove Debian bugs on systems that do run > Debian. Please corect me if this is too disconnected from reality. You are right. But we can only do so in a way that is connected to what the policies dictate. We can only do so while keeping sanity. If, for example, you run this script: for i in $(find /usr/lib) do echo FOO >> $i if $RANDOM > 25000 done I can assure you nobody will attempt to support your system.¹ If the user breaks it beyond what we can provide and support, we cannot support it. Again: There are only so many resources available in a volunteer project. Of course, you can provide the funding for somebody to get in your computer and fix the breakage. But Debian does not support such a use case. ¹ Yes, such trivial modifications can be detectable, and we could tell you to reinstall the affected packages, and.... But I guess you get my point! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
