On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:28:28 +0100 fulvio ciriaco wrote: > cgmanager was installed on my system as a dependency, probably > during upgrade: pretty much any desktop application now seems to > depend somehow on it.
Not exactly: libpam-systemd depends on either systemd-shim (which
depends on cgmanager) or systemd-sysv, so if you're running systemd as
PID1 ("init" dependency satisfied by systemd-sysv) you shouldn't have
cgmanager installed at all through any dependency chain.
And even if it were, the current version in testing ships with a unit
file which prevents it from starting if systemd is PID1. It would be
helpful to know what init system you're currently running (eg.
systemd-sysv, upstart, sysvinit-core, openrc or otherwise) and what
version of cgmanager is installed on your system.
> Of course, better yet would be if services are not installed that 99.99%
> of computers do not need
Except that you need this daemon if you're not running systemd as PID1,
because most desktop environments have grown a more or less hard
dependency on logind and its cgroup semantics. I don't want to debate
this (which has been done to death and it has no place here anyway), but
you have to choose if you want to live with either systemd as PID1 or
systemd-shim+cgmanager with whatever init system you want as PID1.
Regards,
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Matteo Panella
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