Package: libgtk2.0-dev Version: 2.8.9-2 Severity: important /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gdk-x11-2.0.pc currently includes a number of libraries in its "Libs:" line which it only uses privately (as far as I have been able to tell): -lXrandr -lXrender -lXi -lXinerama -lXext. (It also includes -lX11, but that dependency is exposed through e.g. gdk/gdkx.h)
It should be improved to have them in Libs.private instead so as not to expose these dependencies needlessly; see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/11/msg00016.html It is possible that other .pc files from this package can also be improved this way. For reference, here's a log of the IRC conversation that led to this report: 23:53 -!- JHM [EMAIL PROTECTED] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:54 -!- You're now known as JHM 02:57 -!- lool [EMAIL PROTECTED]/developer/lool] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:36 -!- nutmeg (Andreas Metzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #debian-devel 11:40 -!- lool (Loic Minier) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/developer/lool] has joined #debian-devel 11:54 < nutmeg> Is the new GTK f*cked with respect to unneeded shlib-dependencies? Rebuilding a package against it adds a whole lot of dependencies ( libcairo2, libfontconfig1, libfreetype6, libpng12-0 libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2), libxext6, libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2, libxrender1 zlib1g) 11:55 < nutmeg> dependency_libs in /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.la is huge. 11:56 < nutmeg> (Yes, the respective package - gtklp - is using newest latest libtool.) 12:10 < JHM> nutmeg: The .la isn't the problem AFAIK; `pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0` is. 12:11 < JHM> It looks like /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc should have "atk cairo" in a Requires.private rather than Requires. 12:14 < JHM> Except it can't, as it exposes both atk and cairo through #includes in its headers. 12:16 < nutmeg> JHM: Thanks, I'll be back in hour. 12:22 < JHM> AFAICT it would be a good idea to move Xrandr, Xrender, Xi, Xinerama and Xext from "Libs" to "Libs.private" in gdk-x11-2.0.pc . 12:23 < JHM> (The X11 dependency is exposed through gdk/gdkx.h and gdk-pixbuf-xlib/gdk-pixbuf-xlib*.h) 12:28 < lool> JHM: we had a lengthy discussion on the subject with vte 12:28 < lool> JHM: vte has the same problem with gtk, vte's headers include gtk's headers, and packages FTBFS since some Require were moved to Require.private 12:29 < lool> JHM: the decision is at the pkg-config level, but it's probable that we will have to stick with more ELF deps than truly needed for Gtkish libs 12:29 < lool> JHM: the only ELF deps which will disappear are the one only used in stable builds 12:30 < lool> s/stable/static 12:30 < lool> JHM: see #340904 12:30 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Penix, p2-mate, abi, Hydroxide, stargirl, mentor, kanru, lool, nekral, KhensU, (+93 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 12:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: zorton, Yoe, nutmeg, cappicard, ElBarono, Np237, lr, stargirl, StevenK, lamont-away (+33 more) 12:31 < lool> JHM: see also #340406 12:32 < JHM> lool: At least gdk-x11-2.0.pc looks like it could be cleaned up. 12:36 < lool> JHM: without breaking anything with #included headers etc.? 12:36 < JHM> The only dependency it exposes, AFAICT is the -lX11. 12:37 < lool> JHM: what do you want to clean? the Libs line? 12:37 < JHM> Yes. 12:37 < lool> JHM: I agree with that 12:37 < lool> JHM: but it requires some checking in the headers 12:38 < lool> hmm no, stuff in the headers is probably in Requires anyway 12:47 -!- nutmeg (Andreas Metzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #debian-devel 12:50 < nutmeg> JHM, lool: Could either of you knowledgable people submit a bug-report? 13:04 * nutmeg uploads gtklp featuring library bloat. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (800, 'unstable'), (750, 'experimental'), (500, 'testing-proposed-updates'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.12.6 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO8859-1 (charmap=ISO-8859-1) Versions of packages libgtk2.0-dev depends on: ii libatk1.0-dev 1.10.3-1 Development files for the ATK acce ii libcairo2-dev 1.0.2-3 Development files for the Cairo 2D ii libglib2.0-dev 2.8.4-2 Development files for the GLib lib ii libgtk2.0-0 2.8.9-2 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libpango1.0-dev 1.10.1-2 Development files for the Pango ii libx11-dev 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System protocol client li ii libxcursor-dev 1.1.3-1 X cursor management library (devel ii libxext-dev 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System miscellaneous exte ii libxfixes-dev 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System miscellaneous 'fix ii libxi-dev 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System Input extension li ii libxinerama-dev 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System multi-head display ii libxrandr-dev 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System Resize, Rotate and ii pkg-config 0.20-1 manage compile and link flags for libgtk2.0-dev recommends no packages. -- debconf-show failed -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]