On 20 July 2015 at 03:48, Eduard Bloch <[email protected]> wrote: > Hallo, > * Felipe Sateler [Sun, Jul 19 2015, 03:14:11PM]: >> So, we have 2 issues: >> >> 1. Your system is not shutting down >> 2. Systemd is not telling you enough to discover what is wrong. >> >> I'm afraid 2 is really an upstream issue and not an integration issue. >> Could you please file that bug upstream? > > Maybe... I will give it a try tonight. However I am sceptical regarding > "productive" communication with upstream.
Great, let us know when you have filed a bug upstream. > >> We can try to help debug number 1, though, and there may be a real >> integration bug. Please see the shutdown section in the upstream >> wiki[1]; in particular, starting the debug shell before shutting down > > The thing is, the issue is not reproducible. It might happen once a > month, and then not appear for many months. And you don't want to enable > all the debug machinery all the just in case. The thing needed is the > minimum control mechanism in place just when the problem occurs. > > And when it happens for the first time, it's too late to active the > debug shell. You can enable debug-shell.service, so that when it happens, you have the shell on tty9. I don't know if this can be started up on demand (specially if it is that late in the shutdown sequence). > >> and switching to it when the shutdown hangs should let you query the >> journal to find out issues. >> >> Note that if you enabled persistent journal logging you can maybe >> still get the info from the journal: journalctl -b -<number of boots >> since the last hang> > > Says that it cannot find an id. Checked: > > $ sudo journalctl --list-boots > -1 39f59f8ebdd644f39aeb46b67eef9bff Sa 2015-07-18 09:12:05 CEST—Mo 2015-07-20 > 08 > 0 39f59f8ebdd644f39aeb46b67eef9bff Mo 2015-07-20 08:39:43 CEST—Mo 2015-07-20 > 08 > > No idea what happened to the logs. Do you have persistent logging enabled? I think you do not. Please follow the instructions of the README.Debian if you want to enable it. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]

